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Can't believe no-one's mentioned it yet
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Big Phil for England. What's everyone's opinions on Phil Scolari being offered the England job?
I've got to say, I'm surprised they've gone for a foreigner again, just because of public opinion. But if you look at the managers in international football, he's got to be the top one.
I've got to say, I'm surprised they've gone for a foreigner again, just because of public opinion. But if you look at the managers in international football, he's got to be the top one.
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The last time we had such gems as "we have surrendered our heritage to a nation of 7 million skiers who spend half their time in darkness".
I wonder what they will come up with this time: "a nation of samba dancers who spend their entire time wearing thongs and shaving their pubic hair into thin lines", perhaps?
The only English manager who might have been good enough was McClaren, so I suppose it's a good decision.
You comin' down to Tynie on Wednesday Bri?
Can't mate, working till 5 :mad:
The stands are too steep anyway, one beer wobble too many and it's Goodnight Vienna
he said that this was a smack in the mouth for every English coach/manager. Kind of like buying foreign players eh Harry?
If he does the job then he's the right man. I've said from the start that if I couldn't see the person managing one of the top four (or should that be five now that Arsenal can't get in the top four?!!), then they shouldn't manage England. As Dein was on the panel there was no way that my personal favourite (Wenger) would get the job. From what I've heard today Dein started the courtship of Scolari after the Euro 04 game...
Scolari will have the respect of the big players, and his Brazil and Portugal sides have both played beautiful attacking football and been by far the best teams at their respective tournaments. It looks good. Would be interesting if Portugal knocked England out of the World Cup. I wonder how fans would react. I agree with Bri-namite, it's gonna be real annoying watching Portugal games, and getting everything they do scrutinized by the English commentators. They're my 'outsider' (if you could call them that) for winners.
I wonder if they will still be demanding Terry Venables be the next manager?:p
I'd say so.
It certainly won't be "a nation of great footballers who keep winning world cups", will it?
I'm delighted. The only English candidate that would have come close was McLaren, who does at least have European success to his name as coach at United.
Plus a league cup, plus a UEFA final (at least) plus the Treble with United...
There isn't another English manager to compare really, if fact there aren't many managers in jobs at the moment in the UK who come close...
Frankly I don't think the manager matters that much if you have decent players.
As for having to be a top-four manager, why? A sign of a good manager is what they have achieved with their resources. Alan Curbishley would win the Premiership with Chelsea just as easily as Mourinho has...........
There's little to choose between the top English candidates, but I would choose someone who's brought a team from the first division to a top six team on very little money than someone who's won one trophy and achieved very little else on a pretty huge budget.
Indeed. Once to the winners, the other on penalties. TBH I don't think those were negatives.
What working wonders on a small budget has to do with managing top class international players in international tournaments I do not know.
Jose Mourinho doesn't even get paid that as far as I know, and he's a club manager which takes alot more work IMO.
Ah, but I remember Sam Allardyce lording it up over us in a 1996 play-off semi-final after beating us 2-0 on our patch. We then beat Blackpool 3-0 on their patch, and that's hardly the tactical nouse I want from an England manager.
McLaren was assistant at Derby too, when Derby came from the lower divisions with no money and stayed in the Premiership very comfortably. That's how he got the job at United, he coached them to the treble, and now he's won Boro's first ever silverware and got them to a European final.
And as MoK points out, England "crashed out" (a fluke goal and a penalty defeat is hardly a thumping) to the eventual winner and the eventual finalist- the finalist was at home, too. It's hardly shameful.
McLaren is the best English candidate. If Allardyce gets the job I'm supporting Scotland, I think they might be more successful. I'm crucually not saying that McLaren is someone who should get the job, but if the number one criterion is being English then he IS more successful than all his competitors.
And as for those who feel that the manager doesn't make a difference, with pretty much the same team Keegan lost 1-0 at home to the country Eriksson thrashed 5-1 on their own patch.
Of course it will be about money. The FA have been stitched up like a kipper. Eriksson takes a huge packet home (although I get the feeling the press have inflated it) so Scolari wanted one too.