Goth and Rock girls - Do you only go for Goth and Rock guys?

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So you are a Goth girl or a Rock girl and you have the look down and you are one sexy alternative girl. You go on a night out to a goth/rock place and your having fun. Your single. Now the place is fileld with goth and rock guys but maybe you see guy that doesn't look al gothed up or ultra rock look. He is fairly good looking, probably a decent guy. He is interested in you, to talk,t o dance to have a meangingless pull - whatever takes ytour fancy, you decide.

Now, would you reject pullin gthe guy because he doesn't look like a goth or rock guy or does the dress up not matter really and you would give the guy a chance or a kiss???

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Doesn't matter so much to me really, but keep the emo's away. I've been out with a borderline chav (for 18months), but don't ask me how that worked. :chin:

I wouldn't say I was a full on goth, although that's definately where my preferences lie, and I definately have a thing for guys in long black leather jackets. :yes:

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Kate_342436 wrote:

I wouldn't say I was a full on goth, although that's definately where my preferences lie, and I definately have a thing for guys in long black leather jackets. :yes:

That always reminds me of Matrix geeks rather than goths. "Look mommy, I'm Neo."

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You should come to Leeds. I often where my long length leather jacket on a night out!

Its not one down to ankles though, it goes to below my knee. :thumb:

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Violette wrote:

probably wouldnt be as interested as i would be about someone who dressed the same as myself, as that is my type. would give them a chance if they were a laugh though.

so if they came up and started talking and stuff, you'd listen and that or just nod politiley knowing you wouldn't go with them coz they don't dress the same as you?

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not many goth and rock girls on thesite.org?

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i dont go for any guys because im straight, but to answer from a guys perspective i dont think it would really bother me if say a goth or a rock chick game up and started sleazing me, i'd be flattered either way and give her chance to prove that it was someone i could get on with, this counts for any type of person other than gyppos.

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lol!!!

yeah thats cool.

Its just I have been in the goth rock sceen and its actually quite pretenious I have found and people do exlude you unless you dress to the extreme.

I just wondered really as I like the goth and rock look on girls, though I am hardly an uber goth/rock guy myself.

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I lean somewhere between goth and rocker, and I've been out with a relatively chavvy guy, a goth (complete with frilly shirts ..yeesh, never got to liking that), and a pretty normal kinda guy. So no, for me it doesn't matter how they dress, which is mostly what this is about, it's their personality that's much more important.

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thats cool. I like that view.

But at a club, would you take the time to get to know their personality or just o for the pull with the alternative guy?

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me and my mate used to regularly go to a rock night as they were open till 7am, used to go after a normal club, used to go in our clubbing gear like. was a pretty heavy rock scene, we liked some of the music so went, never had any problems, used to get on with everyone well. same with every type of people, theres some alright ones and some complete bell-ends

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Its not bizarre at all.

Despite claims on here to the contry, I have never seen a goth and chave walking together.

People wh choose to dress and have certain interests, seem to come together and I haven't seen much mixing going on so I think its a worthy questiont o ask.

and since is based around dress sense and attitdue. Its style and apperance.

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well when you're my age, everyone tends to stick to their own cliques....chavs go out with other chavs, goths go out with other goths. But when you're older and people come into their own more....i don't think it's an issue. People just go for what they like....doesn't always mean they dress the same, but its usually similar to a degree.

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I wouldn't mind if they were goth, rocker, emo etc as long as they looked good, their outfit suited their personality and they were decent people. Your thread seems to be a bit pointless tbh.

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Walkindude wrote:

Despite claims on here to the contry, I have never seen a goth and chave walking together.

I have.. look harder.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that a lot of so called "goths"/"rockers"/"greebos"/etc these days are one step about from being a charver. Many of them are "reformed" charvers who have now jumped on the hoody, baggy jeans, stripy tights, snot-nosed brigade. At least most "chavs" don't consider themselves superior beings because they're subscribing to a certain way of dressing and listening exclusively to a certain type of music.

Before someone rips out my throat, I'm not talking about them all and I'm not talking about the genuine minority.

I've been out with a bloke who people would consider a "chav" and a bloke who would be considered a gothy-rocker hybrid and I'd take the former every time. When I went down the pub or on nights out with the latter, the main topic of conversation would be the fact that I was dressed differently to them, and that I liked different music to them. Amazingly when he came out with my friends we didn't all focus on his appearance, and while he's obviously only one person the whole experience left a very bad taste in my mouth.

Pretentious didn't even begin to cover it and he was a crap shag

Oh, and ITA that long black leather trenches scream Matrix geek to me, whether that's the case or not.. I always enjoy seeing them in the height of summer though, very cool.

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yeah I had a simialr exepeirence in goth/rock clubs and websites briggi so I understand exactly what you mean.

Don't see the attarction int he chavs myself. Some fo the girls can be very hot indeed but then they opne their mouthas and its fair from feminine. Maybe thats just Leeds tho lol.

Mine isn't super long, its long but not short. If you ever watched Angel and see the coat he wears in that, its like that.

Well in Leeds I have never seen a goth and a chav together, tho I have seen reformed chavs go rock types. They are the nromal chvvy types and then ttens hit and its hoodie rockers. Some of them anyway.

I think its interesting and not pointless thank you button moon.

ps whopps on that typo there lol.

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Walkindude wrote:

yeah I had a simialr exepeirence in goth/rock clubs and websites briggi so I understand exactly what you mean.

Don't see the attarction int he chavs myself. Some fo the girls can be very hot indeed but then they opne their mouthas and its fair from feminine. Maybe thats just Leeds tho lol.

Mine is super long, its long but not short. If you ever watched Angel and see the coat he wears in that, its like that.

Well in Leeds I have never seen a goth and a chav together, tho I have seen reformed chavs go rock types. They are the nromal chvvy types and then ttens hit and its hoodie rockers. Some of them anyway.

I think its interesting and not pointless thank you button moon.

You should come to Oxford then, huge variety of different people who all socialise.

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ButtonMoon wrote:

You should come to Oxford then, huge variety of different people who all socialise.

:yes:

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briggi wrote:

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that a lot of so called "goths"/"rockers"/"greebos"/etc these days are one step about from being a charver. Many of them are "reformed" charvers who have now jumped on the hoody, baggy jeans, stripy tights, snot-nosed brigade. At least most "chavs" don't consider themselves superior beings because they're subscribing to a certain way of dressing and listening exclusively to a certain type of music.

I hate that kind of, "you can't be original if you don't dress a certain way or listen to a certain type of music" idea that some goths subcribe to (I assume we actually just mean people who wear band t-shirts and a lot of black, rather than actual goths). It's quite ironic that a lot of this modern 'rock' music is actually just as manufactured and over-produced as the pop music that it's supposed to be rebelling against. I think it's quite small-minded to judge that someone is unoriginal, or following the crowd, just because of the way they dress. Evidently, though, I find that a lot of chavs (and even people who aren't really chavs) seem to be quite judgemental towards goths anyway, even going so far as to call them goths when they blatently aren't. So I guess it goes both ways.

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oh aye, everyone judges everyone. All groups do to a degree.

The looks I used to get in the goth clubs coz I wasn't xtreme goth look. Simple black with no make up or chains or crazy appendages.

It was funny coz they used to go on and on about being unique, outsiders, against the modl etc etc.

But you could look at anyone of them in that club and se them in th day time and know they went tot hat kidn of club, listened to that kind of music and such but you never coudl with me coz I dressed for me, what was practical and comfortable and suited in the day and at night. You'd never guessed I went to those places.

Oxford sounds good. I wish I was in a place liek that. Been there a few times briefly, very pretty place.

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long black leather trenches scream Matrix geek to me

Never seen or been interested in seeing any of the Matrix films anyway, so that doesn't bother me. Did notice a lot more around after the first film came out though. Either way, prefer leather to burberry anyday

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Interesting note, I am pretty sure that Neo's coat in the last 2 films wasn't actually leather :chin:

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I'm With Stupid wrote:

Evidently, though, I find that a lot of chavs (and even people who aren't really chavs) seem to be quite judgemental towards goths anyway, even going so far as to call them goths when they blatently aren't. So I guess it goes both ways.

Well yeah, it goes both ways, you're right.

But since it was my (incorrect?) perception that a big part of the "alternative" mentality is supposed to be not really giving a fuck about what people wear (and embracing all manner of thinker, dresser etc), I find it pretty pathetic that a lot of the poseurs who now inhabit the [all-new] alternative scene are obsessed with what every other tom, dick and harry in the pub/club/park is wearing. I wasn't sure if you were referring to my view being small-minded or not; I don't think it is but ymmv.

Agreed about the music.

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excellent point briggi. Couldn't have said it better myself.

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A couple of years ago, I would have outrightly said no - I wouldn't look twice because you didn't have an 'alternative' style. But, these days, I find myself more attracted to people more for their faces and tastes rather than their clothes/image. As long as we have enough in common and you were hot, then I wouldn't care if you wore jeans and a t-shirt. In fact, I'd be more turned off if you walked around looking like a goth.

Ilora x

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wow.

I'm grateful for your honest opinion Ilora, thank you

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My pleasure!

Ilora x

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Im neither of those, but a few friends are an i wouldnt say that they only go out with people who dress the same. Everyone deserves a chance, but its likely if there's a similarity an the way you dress that someone would approach you.

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briggi wrote:

Well yeah, it goes both ways, you're right.

But since it was my (incorrect?) perception that a big part of the "alternative" mentality is supposed to be not really giving a fuck about what people wear (and embracing all manner of thinker, dresser etc), I find it pretty pathetic that a lot of the poseurs who now inhabit the [all-new] alternative scene are obsessed with what every other tom, dick and harry in the pub/club/park is wearing. I wasn't sure if you were referring to my view being small-minded or not; I don't think it is but ymmv.

Agreed about the music.

No I wasn't saying your view is small minded, I was agreeing, at least among teenagers. I think most people grow out of it though. Then they turn into music/film/other kinds of snobs instead.

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I'm With Stupid wrote:

Then they turn into music/film/other kinds of snobs instead.

..and ain't that the truth!

I hope she doesn't mind me saying, but I'd say Ilora's post is testimony to how much most people's outlooks change [at least with regard to clothes, image etc] as they get older/mature.