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Women to be charged for epidurals
BillieTheBot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4742632.stm
what do you think?
couldnt believe it when i heard it on the news this morning. WOMEN MUST SUFFER. If having to push several lbs of screaming baby out of your vagina isnt enough reason for someone to be offered a bit of anaesthetic, then im not sure what is.
what do you think?
couldnt believe it when i heard it on the news this morning. WOMEN MUST SUFFER. If having to push several lbs of screaming baby out of your vagina isnt enough reason for someone to be offered a bit of anaesthetic, then im not sure what is.
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Well the natural way to do it go without.
But I think it is pushing it a bit far to charge for that tho.
Even so it is more natural without painkillers, we have them for a reason.
Ive heard that having an epidural doesn't detract from the 'experience' of childbirth though, it jsut removes some of the pain. But I'm not a woman who's had kids, so that's just hearsay.
I think pain relief should be available to all for all manner of things, definately including childbirth.
"Yes sir your leg has been smashed into several pieces and your eye is hanging out your ear. Would you like some pain relief at £100/hour?"
Saying that my wife has had two children with no epidural. First time round she left it too late and second time she nearly had the baby in the car!
I think some men wouldn't mind the pain if they could know what it feel like to have a baby growing inside you. I know I would gladly take the pain for it if it was possible.
You would expect the midwives of all people to be on women's side.
Their arguement about epidurals becoming like C-sections with more women opting for one to make labour easier is slightly unfair. As you still have to pyhiscally push the baby out even if you have an epidural, it just means you don't feel the pain.
Why does everything come down to cost....I presume that the other interventions Sue Macdonald refers to will required the mid-wife etc... to spend longer on each women giving birth and more drug etc.. could be required.
:mad: rant over.
Interesting that this is coming from a clinical body rather than one of us "bean counters" though. Don't expect it to be as high on the media list because of that then...
Midwives also tend to advocate "natural" births as far as possible, and midwifery-led maternity wards are unable to help women requiring any obstetric input (including epidurals). It is therefore not at all surprising that they want women to have as little intervention as possible.
The money you have shouldn't be revelant of the may you are threated as human.
if you have money, here are some painkillers...
if you are poor, suffer in silence please...
NO2 for example, does that slow down the birth?
And I've seen some good evidence suggesting that GHB can be effective in not only numbing some of the pain but dilating the woman into the bargin.
pethidine doesnt slow labour down, but DOES pass the placenta, but also made me sick and high as a kite, yet didnt do much for me analgesia-wise.
Epidural has risks, increases the risk of assisted delivery if done at the wrong stage of labour because you cant feel enough to push - this isnt always the case though (it wasnt for me)
Im not sure about GHB how much research has been done.
I'll see if I can pull out some research.
Why so?
ps Are you a) at East Kent and b) involved in this nonsense?
I definitely don't think epidurals should become an add on cost, there's the obvious issue of more intervention sometimes being necessary post-epidural, which then is more costly to the NHS. But, I'm of the belief that women need to have a degree of control during childbirth, and I'm in no doubt that an epidural helps a lot of women in that respect. If an epidural is the necessary action to provide a woman with some respite then they should get one without a moment's hesitation, being in often excruciating pain for hours is as good a reason that I can think of.
Women need choice in labour and they need INFORMED choice.
If more women actually went to their antenatal classes and/or researched stuff a bit more then I think it would help more than saying you cant have this unless you pay.
Also the fact of having to pay, might mean women think if they pay for it, then they can have it regardless of whether the doctors are saying no, youre too far gone.
Hit the nail on the head. Absolutely, though as it stands there are still many women aren't interested in being informed, or who don't have easy enough access to that information - and those in the know aren't really interested in informing them anymore than is necessary.
Labour is one thing I'll definitely be doing my research about before it happens. :yeees:
Well, first of all we have the divide between the private & public sectors becoming blurred, secondly we have the NHS pondering whether to restrict hip replacements for people of a certain weight and refusing to provide for others with whom there may be less chance of lasting success, and thirdly we've got pregnant women being told to pay for measures which help with the pain of childbirth.
Considering the prevailing ideology of privatisation and profit, i think these are clear indicators of the health service's changing nature, as stealthy as they may be. As soon as people accept these changes, more will be ushered in.
The 51st State, here we come...
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