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Mladic soon to be caught...
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Mladic, Bosnian-Serb Paramilitary leader and butcher of Srebreniczka is apparently nearing capture by, i believe, Serb security forces.
I welcome the news, if it is true. But I do fear for what will happen afterwards. Will the trial be held by the EU, will the Serbs keep a hold of him, or will his enemies demand custody?
The point is i think his arrest and trial should be by the numbers, so justice can be brought about. And this should not be a case of the Anti-Serb movement making political or media gains.
I welcome the news, if it is true. But I do fear for what will happen afterwards. Will the trial be held by the EU, will the Serbs keep a hold of him, or will his enemies demand custody?
The point is i think his arrest and trial should be by the numbers, so justice can be brought about. And this should not be a case of the Anti-Serb movement making political or media gains.
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I think the best way would be for him to be tried at The Hague. That's how it should be with all war criminals anyway. Even they have a right to a fair trial, and in most cases they won't be getting that in the country where they have committed their crimes.
I agree with you Aladdin 100%
Yeah, but it is likley he wil be tried at home.
The thing with these modern day dictators is they have learned well from Nuremberg, they dont give the judges a chance to talk or the prosecution to make a case and they try to defend themselves to make a show of it.
Everything every dictator does is legal, that's the whole fucking problem. As long as people believe in the rule of law and not their own common fucking sense you'll keep having dictators and all that goes with it.
Theft is wrong, unless it's legal. Then it's taxation.
Murder is wrong, unless it's legal. Then it's execution.
Most of the horrors inflicted by perfectly rational people against their victims has been done in the name of the rule of law. Everything Hitler did was legal.
I'd love for you to provide me with some proof that would pass the rules of evidence of a court that countries exist. Best of luck!
Oh no mate. Prosecution has to prove jurisdiction.
Which judging from the number of people in jail they seem to do quite nicely.
Ironic yet again, for the Bosnian war was all about boarders and control and rights to secession.
If you don't bring it up, it's assumed you submit to it. Over here you have to raise issues of jurisdiction before the trial. (I think it's two weeks)
As most people mistake the idea of being within the country (or indeed town, city etc) for reality almost no one does raise the issue.
And people think its ludicruos we don't have Osama by now.
I mean 10 years and we havent got Mladic. Surely Osama has a few years left.
Anyway, I am glad they are gonna get him. I reckon the tiral should be internation based with neutral judges and so forth. Couldn't trust the serbs to deal with him.
But then who else is left? The americans? Where everyone will bitch and moan about it? The rest of europe? They ain't even done with Milosevic yet! The Chinese? That would eb just hypocritical.
There is no one left that could do it!
its not unusual to share the same opinion as someone you know. We don't all have to argue like you and me scarlett
Also, i am sure Walkindude as an Australian, a country that openly took in many refugees of the Bosnian War from Croatia would feel more of a connection with them. I by contrast find the demonisation of the Serbs in the conflict to be a bad thing and despise the actions of Croatia, as they have acted as though they were innocent victims due to how the war was portrayed, rather then having the truth of the conflict shown.
Indeed. I am more on the Bosnian and Croats side then the Serbs, and while I am sure some things were left out in the portrayal of the conflcit and that both sides commited some deplorable acts,, I would still say its the Serbs that were in the wrong.
The truth is, more Serb civilians were slaughtered in the Bosnian war then any other side, with the exception of the Bosniaks...who i remind you were predominantly favouring Serbia and the majority were Serb/Slavic.
They were demonised by a compliant world media who refused to investigate the facts or were denied the opportunity to investigate the facts, and aided in making the Serbs a scapegoat for a war that came about due to Serbia been unhappy with the Croat nomination for the rotating Presidency, Muslim extremists demanding all non-Muslims be removed from Bosnia so it could be a muslim state and Croatian military build up.
The only reason Serbia was not the wests ally was because they were inherently an ally of the USSR and then later Russia and Communist at a time when Fascist mass murdered like the Croat leader were acceptable but communists were not!
However, the Serbs weren't the innocents you make out. All three sides committed atrocities and took part in ethnic cleansing (a rather polite term for murder and rape), but the Serbs were by far the worst.