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Also I cannot believe I used my breasts as an argument
Did you forget you typed this straight after?
And where's your rabid condemnation of all the 'bitches' shouting at men passing by? Oh i forgot, you just dont like that.
:rolleyes:
Because it's usually taken well in good spirit. It's seen for what it is - a compliment. I've already said this kermit, try reading the thread.
I said it's bordering on harrassment and worth a slap, but a single grope isn't harmful enough to warrant myself getting worked up over it.
For a guy to properly come onto a rape victim in a club - dancing up close, trying to make contact, making comments - then that's obviously just as bad as someone shouting "nice arse" from a passing car. The "threat" is more pressing, and it's intimate. Maybe that realisation is beyond you, i dunno.
i wouldn't say taking the piss (i'm sure you're perfectly nice) but i don't think it's usually intended as a compliment. just a laugh/being a nob.
i can't imagine a white van man thinks 'what a beautiful lady, my she is exquisite. i ache for her breath on my pillow. my god, i must honk her immediately and then she will realise the depth of my feeling, and surely love me for evermore'.
i think it's more 'haha...girl... HOOOONNNNKKK...haha.....funny.'
Exactly. I'm 19, and just before Christmas I was followed and harrassed by a bloke when I was on my way home. I'm normally a very confident person, but it freaked the hell out of me, and still does. A couple of days later someone stopped me by patting me on the arm to tell me I'd dropped my glove, and I nearly smacked them one because I was scared it was someone going to harrass me again. I'm still wary of strangers, and take the longer and more expensive bus route to uni so I'm not on my own except on the 30 second walk to the bus stop. So if anyone even beeped/slowed down I'd be pretty nervous too. Not to mention I'd question their motives, as I'm as far from tarty/attractive as it gets.
i do appreciate it's annoying; but i reallllllly wouldn't look at it as a personal thing. men will look at any pair of tits - if the face is nice then it's just a bonus!
post of the week!
Yep, basically.
I reckon it's just a reaction to seeing a pair of tits or an arse walking down the street to be honest. No thought process involved.
I have a plan - I'm going to get a sign on a stick that says 'LOSER' and wave it at them if they honk.
that's just going to attract more attention.
and they'll find it funny.
I agree with Miss. Lucifer, Post of the Week fo' sho'.
or i could pm a mod perhaps, wouldn't know how or which one mind!
Can I just ask though, what reaction people who honk at girls are looking for? I mean there is little to no chance that she is going to want you there and then (or anytime/place) because you have honked at her, I think we've established that most girls don't like it and don't take it as a compliment.
It just makes me feel stupid and embarrassed, is that the intention?
i.e. they want to draw attention to themselves..and you!
A bloke driving a lexus down the road probably wouldnt think that either.. its more like 'shes fit, i'll beep' or something... It's not malicious intent (thought it obviously sometimes causes offence sometimes).
Definitely.
But IMHO its just as silly to blame the woman who DOES feel threatened for not "dealing with it".
I suppose its different life experiences and all that. I am good friends with women who were attacked, who are threatened by men doing this, so that makes my opinion like this. I don't think its harmless. If I didn't know these people I probably would think it harmless.
I don't think men who do are seeking to intimidate women, but that is the effect it has sometimes.
C'est la vie.
I note nobody's yet said what's wrong with the idea that you don't honk and holler at people unless you know they can take it. Is that too much for some people to comprehend?
it is. the idea of there being blame anywhere in this situation is silly.
man doesn't realise woman could be offended by honking.
woman doesn't realise man means no malice by lighthearted honking.
simple misunderstanding, no?
Men check out every woman who passes them by. By beeping or commenting, it's a verbal 'thumbs up'.
There's nothing sinisiter to it.
If you don't know you don't do it.
Therefore you shouldn't be doing it.
Diddums.
kaff, yeah, of course its a simple misunderstanding. There ain't owt sinister about it. But I do think it shows a lack of intelligence. It's why the only people who do it are builders, white van drivers, and spotty boys in Saxos.
By that logic, men shouldn't try it on with women in clubs if they don't know their history.
I have already explained the parity of threat between both situations.
come on though. they can barely drive, and now you're expecting them to drive and think at the same time?
imagine the accidents.
And I've already been through how you're wrong about the latter.
And if you've got half a braincell you can normally see which girls don't want the attention about ten minutes before you try and chat them up.
Not really.
In a club a certain understanding exists that people may try to chat other people up.
In the street, there's no expectation that some loon in a chavmobile is going to drive by and honk or shout some random crap out their window.
I can see why someone walking on their own might be intimidated by it, but i've been referring to groups tarted up & out on the town.