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Oh yes I read one that was obviously bullshit it was about airline stewerdess it said somethings I could beleive, like they go round in the morning spotting all the men who wake with errections, but then some stuff that was all made up, like when a new male member of staff join the crew they have to lie on the floor and the girls will all stand over tham with nothing on under their skirts and the guys have to match the girl to what theyde seen.
A lot of them are clearly bullshit
Not at all. Pointing out that some women wind up sleeping with the gropers (which is why they grope in the first place) is stating facts.
it was much worse before these mags ever appeared ...it is less so now becuase of industrial rules and workers rights ...thought you'd a known that one blag.
(Sorry just trying to bring a bit of relief)
As usual, you haven't been reading a word I've written have you? Quote me where I said that there was no groping before lads mags. Quote me where I said that this is anything new. Oh no, you can't, because as per fucking usual, you got the wrong end of the stick.
Oh look, you're avoiding the point again. You know full well what your previous post is saying and you also know full well you haven't got a leg to stand on.
Grow up mr, you're probably the oldest on here. Start acting like it.
YOU know damn well that the line which said ...but i thought YOU'D know this ...was reffering to the workers rights and industrial legislation.
Well stop being a disengenous cunt then.
What the fuck has industrial legislation got to do with someone getting groped in a nightclub?
Yes, I'm fully aware of what industrial legislation is thanks. I'm just wondering how its relevant. I'm also wondering how you got the impression that I think that women never got sexually harrassed before lads mags, especially seeing as I have explicitly stated that lads mags are just an extension things that have come before.
not always i have plenty of girl mates into quickies as guys
hate quickies myself, does that mean im not a man?
please put me on your ignore list.
move over clan ...theres room for one more there ...
Yes, so have I. However letters of those sort in lads mags are made up by the male editorial team. Same as letters in porn mags.
for fucks sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazyeyes
So you can't answer my points so just chuck abuse at me?
Very good that, well done.
So the last line was meant for me, not the whole post...even though the last line refers to the whole post?
Yes mr, clear as mud. As usual.
in the sixties and through the seventies there were dreadful programmes such as benny hill and carry on whatever ...all about leering and groping.
the sad thing about them was they were actualy reflecting what people in the work place found funny.
how many people in the work place ...or on holiday ...or on a night out actualy behaved.
pathetic as those programmes were they did reflect society at large.
thintgs haven't changed that much apart from laws making it less acceptable.
so i don't believe for a minute these mags have much if any impact at all.
people ...even the badly educated ...are usualy far more savvy than some would have you believe.
Was that really necessary ?
So what if he is one of the eldest here, is it really that relevant ?
so does that mean people cant voice their opinion if they are in the older age group ?
DONT bring age into the fucker.
Because he's acting like a childish prick.
and you are not........................ok :yeees:
Yes, I'm well aware that these things have been around for a long time. I even said so in my posts - why not read them sometime?
However - just because a cultural phenomenon has been around for a long time, doesn't make it right. Just because a cultural phenomenon has been around for a long time doesn't mean it doesn't have an influence on culture. I'm not arguing for a direct and obvious link (again, if you'd actually bothered to read my posts, you would know this), but there is an influence.
Or don't you think that the media and advertising affects anyone at all?
Yeah I might well be, but I was attempting to have a discussion about objectification and then I cop a load of unjustified shit off mr. I think I have the right to reply, don't you?
people ...even the badly educated ...are usualy far more savvy than some would have you believe.
Oh for fucks sake mr, I'm not arguing that these mags have a direct causal effect on how people view women - not in the way that you seem to think anyway. What I am arguing is that the media and advertising have an influence on culture and ideology - and that this in turn has an effect on how people view the world.
And what culture would you rather, you'd rather we'd all walk around like robots and not leer? While lads mags may feed the culture, it'll always be there, the leering and groping will always be there. It's an extension to the culture, so what? What are you going to do about it?