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They say that in a recession publicans do alright - cos people always want to buy alcohol even when the outlook is bleak (or maybe especially when the outlook is bleak). Same idea.
and if i was a non smoker i wouldn't dream of going for a jar at the ashtray arms ...i'd go to a non smoking pub!
but the fucking point is ...
if i want to open a smoking pub i should be allowed to!
Fox hunting rules. And it keeps the little vermin in check in a fun and physically-demanding manner.
it's no wonder our liberties are being taken away ...we've never bothered showing that we can actualy use them ...actualy think for ourselves ...noooo thats to difficult.
most people it would seem prefer everything to be legislated for or against.
we're so free and clever we have become fucking useless ...handing over the decision making about every aspect of our lives to a handful of people we don't like don't trust and wouldn't want our daughters to marry.
And even then, someone could have stopped smoking for years and it still would seem (s)he was, since it takes 15 years for your body to go back to normal.
But at some places designated drivers get free soft drinks with every round bought.
as long as i can have smoking ones ...you love going in circles.
Looks like Wales will get it before England anyway. Will people be crossing the border for a pint and a puff?
what i would like to see ...is choice.
on one side of the street you see a pub which has a sign sying this is a no smoking establishment.
on the other side of the street is a pub with a sign saying ...this place fucking stinks.
then we could CHOOOOSE.
The smoking argument has been going on for ages. I smoke presently, but even when i've quit for months on end i support smoking in pubs, simply because of the way it is. I would probably be laughed out of the place if i advised a mcdonalds employee to serve everyone food without fat [Yes, i know theres no such thing as "Passive fattening"]. The British pub is one of Britain's institutions.
I would however settle for pubs that serve food to have smoking and non-smoking sections , rather than a blanket ban on smokers. Sending all smokers outside gives drink-spikers and twisted doormen a whale of a time.
I'm expecting crescendo to turn up any minute.
I repeat what I have always said, as a smoker I want to retin the right to smoke in pubs. Not all, just some. I always thought it was a happy compromise...
So far we've survived on what we brought here ourselves - friends and family sending some over - as well as friends of friends here who have come to visit from abroad with duty free cigarettes.
But yeah, might as well get cigarettes cheaply by travelling the same time. Two things in one go I suppose.
Yes of course you want to, but should you be allowed to?
As far as I can see everyone against the ban is a smoker, whereas I know there are smokers who support the ban becasue it will help them quit, rather telling I think.......
Not quite true. I'm a an ex-smoker and it would certainly help ease my pangs for tobacco if pubs were smoke free. But I'm against the ban because people's liberty to do things, even things which are bad for them, are more important.
Mind you as a side note one of the effects of the ban is that middle-class pubs where food is a major part of their income will stop smoking. Working class pubs where food is much less important will probably stop serving food.
See what I mean?