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When things go bad I'd bet it's usually the users fault. Not looking after yourself while on them, trying too much of something you're not familiar with etc. I've done it myself, not drank enough on pills when I was really overheating which could have left serious damage. The biggest risk with drugs is the person using it.
Personally I would class double dropping as a high risk activity.
Well, yes. Kind of.
Well yes. However, thinking that shrooms are harmless or pills are harmless is an example a user not looking after themselves IMO.
if i we ever meet it's bun fight ok?
Only because I need 2 to reach a decent level. If it was too high then it would be uncomfortable. Correct dosage depends on a number of things for each individual, you cant just say it's high risk.
I can say with confidence that shrooms are harmless if you start with a low dose and build up to a level you're comfortable with. The same with pills in moderation. How much, how often and what you do when you're on them determines if theres a risk involved.
Yeah, its such an effort isn't it? Maybe you should join a gym or something.
Maybe i should. or maybe you should DIE
How rude. :eek:
You cant back your opinion that you can get 'fucked up' from shrooms with any evidence yet you're still saying it. You might trip hard and have a nasty experience, thats as bad as its going to get. Unless you want to go into the really rare cases, which isn't even worth bringing to the discussion.
You might want to read up on PMA
Psychedelics can induce anxiety, depersonalisation, paranoia, depression even psychotic episodes in susceptible people. Read up on it sometime.
You also need a new dealer.
Knocking back fist fulls of unknown pills is dangerous.
Its about self respect really, you do have to live with your body for the rest of your live you know.
To say something is 'harmless' implies that it is safe, will cause no harm, is risk free. To say this about drugs is simply wrong and is a position that cannot be justified in any way.
Harm and risk are about more than causing death, they take into account the long term effects as well. There are no conclusive studies that prove that MDMA doesn't have a long term detremental effect on your physical and mental health, but an emerging body of qualitative evidnece suggests this is a high probability.
Anyone who thinks they can mess with their brain chemistry to such an extreme and not suffer any consequenses is ignorant.
You can not ever prove anything is 'safe' and does not have long term potential problems.
It does seem to be quite certain that high doses of MDMA can cause damage to the brain. What this means and whether it can grow back are up for debate.
If I were to say that driving down the shop was pretty safe, most people would agree with me but it's obviously not without minimal risk.
All short term effects, as I've said before if you dont like them you dont take them again. People going psychotic and doing harmful things on them is an extreme and rarely happens. Not enough to make an issue of it, but I knew you'd try. Some people use them to treat headaches.
Shrooms are personal. You either like them or you dont. You think mind altering means turning psychotic because you listen to the bullshit you hear in the media.
No, they are not always short term effects at all, it is rare but long term mental changes can take place.