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Why does porn exist at all?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    maybe women dont liek using a computer to watch their porn

    maybe they like a good old video or magazine
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Porn is created for men. Why? Because of an immense sex drive of which women are absent. Plain and simple. Women generally run off emotions, men generally run off rationality.

    Tosh. Women on the whole are obsessed with sex, relationships etc etc

    Take a wander down to a newsagent and see what they sell. Notice how they behave. Open your eyes. Ask a simple question - how come women don't invent stuff? How come women were treated as though they were children until 2 centuries ago?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    read a copy of cosmo, theres more wild sex tips in there than anything you can buy for male consumption
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    71% I'd call that the vast majority myself.

    So we have a massive amount of men not satisfied with their sex lives (apparently) and a huge amount of women not happy with their romantic lives either........anyone making the same connection that I am?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    maybe women dont liek using a computer to watch their porn

    maybe they like a good old video or magazine

    I don't have the facts to back this statement up right now, just using my knowledge of human behaviour.

    Because it is more of a social norm that men look at porn, women tend to be a little more secrative about this behaviour, the internet is a very discreet way for women to access pornagraphic material, hense I'd assume it would be a prefered medium, so you would expect a higher proportion of women using internet porn thanm traditional sources.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    MrG wrote:
    read a copy of cosmo, theres more wild sex tips in there than anything you can buy for male consumption

    Sex tips, thats a bit different to reading GQ or Zoo, and seeing naked women. The cosmo sex tips and for that matter most teen and other womans magazines are there because women want a good sex life, they think everyone apart from them has multiply orgasms every time they take their knickers off.

    Men get off seeing a couple of lesbions playing with themselves, a girl fingering herself or a guy pounding a girl to the moon and back.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Boozy wrote:
    I think it's weak of men to use porn to satisfy themselves, having said that I like looking at women as much as the next man.
    Is it also 'weak' for them to visualise in their minds pretty much the same action as they would see in your average porn flick as they wank, or does it only counts if you watch it in a movie?

    Nothing weak about it. Not any more than using sex toys or aids. Or drugs. Or whatever.

    Sex and masturbation are great. Enjoy it, and use whatever aids you see fit to enhance the experience.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Of Boozy's stats, several things I would question:

    1. Who commissioned the survey? Was it thinkofthechilden.com, or whatever nonsense website it was?
    2. Which people did they survey.
    3. Take into account that it is common for men to exaggerate and women to understate.
    4. Which websites were classified as "porn"? Were erotic literature websites included?

    Not that I don't think they're genuine, I just don't believe they apply to the world at large.

    Of Boozy's assertion that masturbation is weak, I really cannot understand how anyone seriously believes that nonsense.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Is it also 'weak' for them to visualise in their minds pretty much the same action as they would see in your average porn flick as they wank, or does it only counts if you watch it in a movie?

    Nothing weak about it. Not any more than using sex toys or aids. Or drugs. Or whatever.

    Sex and masturbation are great. Enjoy it, and use whatever aids you see fit to enhance the experience.

    You don't think people using drugs are using tem because they are too weak to deal with reality.

    Visualisation is different, it's unique it's from inside of you it's your interpretation of an experience and i9t can be very wonderfull with the right partner.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Boozy wrote:
    You don't think people using drugs are using tem because they are too weak to deal with reality.
    Er... no of course I don't. I know hundreds of people who use drugs and not a single one of them are 'too weak to deal with reality'- or weak at all for that matter.

    Why? Do you think otherwise?
    Visualisation is different, it's unique it's from inside of you it's your interpretation of an experience and i9t can be very wonderfull with the right partner.
    So what exactly is the difference between someone getting off by imagining to be fucking a porn star up the arse, and someone getting off by watching said porn star being fuck up the arse in a movie?

    Why is the former not weak but the latter is?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Boozy wrote:
    You don't think people using drugs are using tem because they are too weak to deal with reality.

    No, most people use drugs because they feel nice, just like getting drunk or having sex does.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You don't think people using drugs are using tem because they are too weak to deal with reality.

    What a ridiculous statement. The reality is, there is no reality for a start, secondly if you were to try the average waking experience of the person next to you, it would make lsd seems trivial.
    Visualisation is different, it's unique it's from inside of you it's your interpretation of an experience and i9t can be very wonderfull with the right partner.

    Some people don't visualise. Ever. It's so totally outside their conscious awareness they assume you are mad when you talk about it. Visualise how, btw? Colour, black and white, nearby, far, what size? Is it glossy, is it matt? Do the colours run together, are they solid? Just some of the enormous amount of variables that internal subjective experience can have.

    And everyone's is different.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote:
    Er... no of course I don't. I know hundreds of people who use drugs and not a single one of them are 'too weak to deal with reality'- or weak at all for that matter.

    Why? Do you think otherwise?

    People use drugs beacuse they are trying to escape from reality, thats what drugs do they give you a distored view of reality, a reality where the user hopes his/her experiances will be better than the reality they are trying to escape, why are the week, because instead of challenging the real reality, they are seeking that distorted reality.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Boozy wrote:
    People use drugs beacuse they are trying to escape from reality, thats what drugs do they give you a distored view of reality, a reality where the user hopes his/her experiances will be better than the reality they are trying to escape, why are the week, because instead of challenging the real reality, they are seeking that distorted reality.

    No they don't. They do it because it is a pleasurable experience.

    It's not weak to enjoy pleasure, although you seem to have some very bizarre guilt-tripping in your head which makes you think its wrong to enjoy things.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    klintock wrote:
    Tosh. Women on the whole are obsessed with sex, relationships etc etc

    Take a wander down to a newsagent and see what they sell. Notice how they behave. Open your eyes. Ask a simple question - how come women don't invent stuff? How come women were treated as though they were children until 2 centuries ago?

    No no no, they are obsessed with emotion. The mags on the stands are all about glamour and looks, it's a huge fashion show. There's no real reason for it. It's just personal vanity. Women think guys care about so much shit that half of it we wouldn't even come up with. It's a fashion show.

    Women generally connect sex with emotion, which isn't nessisarily a bad thing, it just makes things difficult since men aren't on the same page.

    Women do invent things. They have been successful for a long time. Just because they haven't been recognised within the past century doesn't mean they don't discover and create great things. Despite what one may think, we all have the same ability to accomplish amazing things by human standards.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No no no, they are obsessed with emotion.

    There are stronger emotions than those to do with sex and relationships?
    The mags on the stands are all about glamour and looks, it's a huge fashion show.

    Is your man cheating on you? Our ten point guide can tell you! etc etc etc not just a fashion show. :no:
    There's no real reason for it. It's just personal vanity. Women think guys care about so much shit that half of it we wouldn't even come up with. It's a fashion show.

    And men think the same about women, and never check to see if they are right or wrong. From personal experience, marriage means nothing to most women if they think they can get away with an affair.
    Women do invent things.

    Apart from mrs. thatch and her mr whippy I can't think of many others.
    They have been successful for a long time.

    I agree, but in a totally different way than men.
    Despite what one may think, we all have the same ability to accomplish amazing things by human standards.

    Yes, but the point is, they didn't. Same ability, no results. Prior to this century women were treated as second class and still are to various degrees in different places. I am wondering why this should be.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Boozy wrote:
    People use drugs beacuse they are trying to escape from reality, thats what drugs do they give you a distored view of reality, a reality where the user hopes his/her experiances will be better than the reality they are trying to escape, why are the week, because instead of challenging the real reality, they are seeking that distorted reality.
    Are you on drugs?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Boozy wrote:
    People use drugs beacuse they are trying to escape from reality, thats what drugs do they give you a distored view of reality, a reality where the user hopes his/her experiances will be better than the reality they are trying to escape, why are the week, because instead of challenging the real reality, they are seeking that distorted reality.

    fucking scary!

    so all the nicotine addicts in the world are weak and trying to escape reality cos they can't cope with it?

    close down the boozers quick!

    ban dangerous sports!

    lets rewright the last 6000 years of history ...
  • Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    fucking scary!

    so all the nicotine addicts in the world are weak and trying to escape reality cos they can't cope with it?

    close down the boozers quick!

    ban dangerous sports!

    lets rewright the last 6000 years of history ...

    Again? It took that long to rewright LAST time.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Because wherever there is demand, people will supply.
    As long as people want porn, there will always be someone there to give it to them. Normally Ron Jeremy.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    klintock wrote:
    There are stronger emotions than those to do with sex and relationships?

    Yes, actually. Consult the good old Book or some Historical text and see that hatred has vied love throughout time.

    Is your man cheating on you? Our ten point guide can tell you! etc etc etc not just a fashion show. :no:

    Yes it is, it's just in a different sense. 'Is my man cheating on me? The quiz says... No! I have an amazing man. I must go out and tell my girlfriends.'


    And men think the same about women, and never check to see if they are right or wrong. From personal experience, marriage means nothing to most women if they think they can get away with an affair.

    I tend to agree. However there are for more reasons for men to assume the personal vanity of a woman. For example, there are far more female magazines that deal personally with women than there are male magazines that deal personally with men.


    Apart from mrs. thatch and her mr whippy I can't think of many others.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventors

    Brows if you wish. There are far more male inventors than there are female, of course, but it isn't all about mrs. thatch :thumb:


    I agree, but in a totally different way than men.

    Yes, sadly women haven't been as published in the past. But now look at Opera and Martha Stewart.


    Yes, but the point is, they didn't. Same ability, no results. Prior to this century women were treated as second class and still are to various degrees in different places. I am wondering why this should be.

    Far be it from me to assume the history of mankind, but I do believe the good old Book started this prejudice. Eve tempted Adam with the fruit and thus the fall of man had begun. We have to remember that before, really, the 20th century most of the world was extremely religious. More so with the deeper into history you delve.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Klintock you are a fucking nutter, I guess that 70's acid trip never went away
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    junker wrote:
    Porn is for every lonely guy out there, myself included, who have realised their hand it's turning out to be their best friend beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Women are way too hard to get with. Their expectations are incredibly, selfishly, almost unattainably, high. The only reason why is because they can.

    Porn is created for men. Why? Because of an immense sex drive of which women are absent. Plain and simple. Women generally run off emotions, men generally run off rationality.

    Example:

    Woman: "I want to have sex. I'm going to go out and meet someone. I want to meet a really nice guy and connect with him completely."

    Man: "Oh, she's hot. I'm gonna bang her."

    Now, back to Mister Moneyshot. Excuse me.


    No wonder you're lonely with an attitude like that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Boozy wrote:
    People use drugs beacuse they are trying to escape from reality, thats what drugs do they give you a distored view of reality, a reality where the user hopes his/her experiances will be better than the reality they are trying to escape, why are the week, because instead of challenging the real reality, they are seeking that distorted reality.

    Oh dear.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes, actually. Consult the good old Book or some Historical text and see that hatred has vied love throughout time.

    Don't get the relevance myself.
    Yes it is, it's just in a different sense. 'Is my man cheating on me? The quiz says... No! I have an amazing man. I must go out and tell my girlfriends.'

    So that they will all want him and he has more options to cheat? Or do women find dependable men more interesting and worthwhile? My own experience tell me not a chance.
    Far be it from me to assume the history of mankind, but I do believe the good old Book started this prejudice.

    The good old book started many prejudices, not all of them have stuck. This doesn't explain the position of women in other societies though, does it? For some reason, men have made sure that women have been limited in their freedoms in almost every society and at every time throughout history.
    We have to remember that before, really, the 20th century most of the world was extremely religious.

    i would love evidence of that. I see plenty of lip service to religion but not much evidence of it being followed. Religion was the lie that everyone told each other while behaving as they always had.
    Klintock you are a fucking nutter, I guess that 70's acid trip never went away

    Mr.T which of my sensible comments are you having problems with?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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