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who runs the country

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
on the day of the general election I would like to ask who run the country?

is it the goverment or global companies?

let me give a few examples, oil companies set the price of fuel, so small filling stations cannot compeat against the ones owned by oil companies.
Supermarkets have put many high street shop out of bussiness, with this new reduction in prices of over the counter drugs we will lose more chemists, and knowlage for maybe £5 a year is it worth it.
Then the big one the golden arches of Mcdonalds who treat thier employies as slaves not alowing them to join unions. not to mention what they do to the land for thier cattle.
did you know that the first electric light bulb made by eddison still burns as bright today as it did new, so why do mine blow every few months?
their is a patent for a water powered combustion engine why is it not avalible to us?
nissan telling the goverment that they will leave the country if we dont join the euro.
i hope I have made my point.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ok, if i had the time and effort, it would be easy enuff to rip apart everything u just said. actually, i think i will <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    let me give a few examples, oil companies set the price of fuel, so small filling stations cannot compeat against the ones owned by oil companies.


    OPEC essentially dictates the price of oil, not the likes of Shell or that. yes there is an economic consequence that the cost of production (in this case, the wholesale price) is higher for the smaller filling stations because they are a tertiary company. the fact is, the big companies need to make a profit by selling petrol to the small stations. they make this profit buy a mark up price. so what? its called economics. small stations have their own advantage - the flexibility allowed by their size is one, the personal customer service etc. tbh, altho private stations may have higher cost of petrol in the end, the large firms incur their own costs. so its not the large firms, it the invisible hand of the free market mechanism.
    Supermarkets have put many high street shop out of bussiness, with this new reduction in prices of over the counter drugs we will lose more chemists, and knowlage for maybe £5 a year is it worth it.

    again, this is not the governments fault, it is simple free market economics. supermarkets benefit from what is called economies of scale - where because of their size, the marginal cost of production is greatly reduced. simply put, they are more economically efficient than high street stores, and so they will always win over high street stores. not a lot one can do now. preserving the high street stores is hindering economic growth. not a good thing. so again, not the government losing control of hte country, its the economy being run with minimal intervention.
    Then the big one the golden arches of Mcdonalds who treat thier employies as slaves not alowing them to join unions. not to mention what they do to the land for thier cattle.

    right, which is why people work there, why peopel earn good money there. trade unions? ffs, 1/2 their employees dont know what a trade union is! i think without sourced evidence, i'm gonna have to let this one slide.
    did you know that the first electric light bulb made by eddison still burns as bright today as it did new, so why do mine blow every few months?

    i dont know a lot about this, but i'm going to use some logic and common sense and say thats because edison used different elements to construct his light bulb. and these different elements were not as economically efficient for production. so they experimented and found that tungsten filaments were cheap and semi durable.so they use those instead. not that hard to work out <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt;
    their is a patent for a water powered combustion engine why is it not avalible to us?

    not economically efficient, as far as i would imagine. tell me more about it.
    nissan telling the goverment that they will leave the country if we dont join the euro.

    economics again. no point nissan staying here if the cost of production rise because England does not going teh EC. fair enuff reasons. give me a reason why they should stay here? nissan told the gov't so the gov't new the threat to the thousands of jobs. its not nissan threating, its just nissan stating.
    nope
    all ur points were not backed up with any evidence or theory. they were badly stated, some were straigh unbelievable. give me facts that are from reliable sources and i might start getting a tad flustered as i write out arguments and midnight b4 an exam. but a nice try. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt; hope u dont take offence me arguing u out like this, but just showing u u need to be a bit more eloquent in ur arguments.

    good luck <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Turtle, perhaps I missed the original point being made here, but I think you actually clarified what was being said.

    Why do we spend millions of pounds and hours of effort electing a government when the world is effectively run by a small group of multinationals. For profit.

    Is it 'right' that the world is run for the financial benefit of the few over and above the needs of the many?

    I know that this is a very idealistic view of the world and I'm not suggesting that I have the perfect solution.

    However, as I have said elsewhere in thesite, there is more to life than economics and I suspect that you should read 'No Logo' by Naomi Klein to discover just how much negative influence the multi-nationals are having on our lives...

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    And don't go blame it on the government"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What I was pointing out was that you can't ingore the economic reasons behind it - yes, essentially, I suppose it is simply a push for profit.

    I dont think multinationals are the sporn of Satan, because at the end of the day, they're just another firm, albeit a very large one. They have their benefits, and I what they do they do for a reason.

    As for more to life than economics, yes, I agree. But economics is as often a not a good explanation for the behaviour of firms and people and governments. However I will try and get a copy of taht boook MOK.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Turtle
    I agree I dont make my pionts well however, all the major oil companys have people working in the OPEC.
    The reason the OPEC was set up was to stop smaller companies under cutting the lager, I belive its called price fixing, they then refine oil to petrol and sell at huge profits to their filling stations, and slightley higher to indipendents, however if you do the math you may pay a few extra pounds for the fuel but you save if you buy anything from the shop.

    Supermarkets will one day be the only shops around.

    Having not been into a Mcdonalds for a nuber of years now, I cannot say what the staff are like, however what they do is well publicied by any veggie group.

    I thought the light bulb was self explanitory(sp?) light bulbs blow so we have to buy more. however this is true of most things, cars, white goods, hi-fis ect are all build to break after so much use, this way companies make more money when you take it back to be repaired.

    The water powered engine seperates the hydrogen and oxygen, I belive its no lager than a ordanery car engine. Its patterned so that is all I know.

    With nissan it is blattent scare tactis to scare it employees to vote for the euro, and to scare others in the manufaturing industry, to follow their example. It is not the pound getting stronger, it is the euro getting weeker that is causing the problems.

    And why would I get angry or upset if you dont agree with me?
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    Originally posted by Sy:
    I thought the light bulb was self explanitory(sp?) light bulbs blow so we have to buy more. however this is true of most things, cars, white goods, hi-fis ect are all build to break after so much use, this way companies make more money when you take it back to be repaired.

    built in obsolecency <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    And why would I get angry or upset if you dont agree with me?

    because many people do.

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