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the jails are full to bursting with people who shouldn't be there.
i'm commiting a prisonable offence right now whilst typing this ...smoking the wrong plant material ...am i a threat to society?
no but you are making baby Jesus cry :crying:
Damn. Im going in for life then... my life would make baby jesus clinically depressed.
I am against the death penalty becaudse I don't trust juries or judges to make the right decision 100% of the time. I don't trust the police not to make things up or force confessions. Many juries really are demented. The police are human.
There is also the fact that making these vermin live with what they have done, and live forever in prison, is more of a punishment than the death penalty ever would be. Which is why the list of murderers who've committed suicide is quite extensive.
I have no moral problem with executing murderers and rapists.
You would have murders and rapists put to death if it was possible to be 100% sure of guilt?
Actually hanging is amoung the most humane ways of killing someone, if it is done properly the neck breaks and the person dies instantly. Something that does not happen with the injection or the electric chair.
But, I am totally against the death penalty because it is just plain wrong, there can be no arguement, if murder is an offence then it makes no odds who does it.
The people I would have put to death (By a firing squad, imho, it is far more humane.) would be the kind of guys you get... who get some sortof sick enjoyment out of killing people slowly, torturing them. You know, the people who feel no guilt for it at all. Because then, what is jail to them? They are not going to regret what they did, at all. Ever.
Do you honestly believe the British system is any better? :rolleyes: please look at our own country at the moment.
his fault for being mentally ill if theres a lack of menta health provision at the time?
I'm not sure, really.
Yes, I would have rapists put to death if I was sure they were guilty. I'd fire the gun myself.
But then at the same time, I wouldn't. Life is life. It's better to let them rot forever.
On balance I would have the death penalty if there was a way of knowing who was guilty. people like Antoni Imiela and Rose West should die a terribly slow awful painful death.
of course it's much better!
have you ever heard of this country hanging the wrong man?
are there any rumours let alone evidence ...that innocent members of the public have been set up by the police and then jailed for years?
of course not. this is not some banana republic.
What about specifically about our country? Can you draw a correlation between what you specifically mean and our criminal justice system? Or might it be a tad more complicated than that?
Yes, so simple as to be meaningless.
Time the US catched up...
I think most of the States have, or at least put a stop to actually doing it, if not taking it off the statute books.
There will be a tipping point, the US can not keep locking up an increasing number as its doing, they physically wont be able to afford it.
Unless you are on the tube.....
- 38 out of 50 States still have the death penalty
- There were 59 executions in 2004
- Since 1976 the god-fearing, deeply Christian Texas has killed 376 people
- California has an incredible 648 people on Death Row. The number for the whole of the US is 3,415
- 88% percent of those are ethnic minorities
- 22 people who were minors when they commited their crimes have been killed since 1976
factsheet
Thats probably why California has so many on death row.
Uhm... yeah. What?
For a start theres the fact that in the USA innocent people have been put to death for crimes they didnt commit. At least here if there is a mistake the person will still be alive and freed, while you can't pardon someone and bring them back from the dead.
Topical. Not funny but topical.
Does the death penalty solve crime? does it disproportionately affect balck and ethnic communities? wouldn't it be better to sort these problems out from the route, by sorting out society rather than just frying offenders? surely this just perpetuates the problem rather than solving it?
I´m sure if you examine their feather content, you could find most people to be quilty or not.
But most people are sentenced to death, at least in the Western world, for having taken someone elses life. I can see where you´re coming from but, with what you say, don´t you think an argument exists for saying that "since you have denied someone a dignified death by killing them, why do you deserve one?". And don´t you think it may go some way to righting the wrongs that society had endured in the first place?
Right, as for this my point is that it is simply wrong for a human being, or a committee of human beings, to decide whether someone else is going to live or die, whether this is in the case of a murder by an individual or a murder by tthe state (which is what capital punishment is really). Just because it is trussed up in officiality does not suddenly make it okay, sending someone to death is barbaric, i don't care in what form, how can it be excused? especially by states in allegedly the most "democratic" country in the world. It is playing at being god and really makes the punisher no better than the perpetrator. I don't think it sets a very good example to society.
Now if a murderer has taken someone elses life, and it's been proven, using all the new tecnology that we have, that he did what he was charged with, then why should he have human right himself, why should be be allowed to eat, sleep, watch tv, read books, see his family even breathe.
The crinimal justice system in America at least takes punishment seriously, look at the sentences that are often given out here, how would you as the victoms wife/husband feel about seeing the person that murdered your lover back on the streets.
An eye for an eye.