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It's one of the few silly things on TV i like, i don't watch soaps or nothing, always liked it for some reason.
Aye i know, i just don't really feel like it either tonight, you know like 2 or 3 friday nights a year you don't feel like doing much, this is one of them i guess.
That's not the point. You said 'filling your mind with a load of rubbish', which I think is quite ironic when drugs are potentially bad for both body and mind. As so what if people choose to stay in and watch tv, it's their choice, no one's forcing it on them, and for someone who's an advocate of choice, I find it difficult you're arguing for people to not watch it. And yeah, I could be perfectly happy without a tv, but could you be perfectly happy without drugs? On a related note, I think it's quite sad someone has to recourse to drugs to make life more stimulating, when life and it's infinite possibilities are stimulating enough.
My point was at least it's socaible. Big Brother is definately not.
Drugs do have the potential to be bad for your 'body and mind' but they can also give you incredibly rewarding experiences. What can you learn from sitting in front of a box watching idiots being idiots?
I'm not arguing for people not to watch it - I'm merely pointing out that in my opinion people that do have to be pretty sad. Is there really nothing better you could be doing?
As I've previously said drugs offer some very rewarding expeiriences, that doesn't mean I think life isn't stimulating enough. I could happilly live without drugs, but unless you take them your never going to fully comprehend that.
What does BB offer you? Perhaps you explain why do you find it so entertaining?
I think that's the crux of the matter, people who've never done drugs think they know what the craic is with drugs, but the truth is they don't even know where to start! (and come across as very arrogant a lot of the time)
I'm on the anti-big brother side here. Can't think of anything worse than sitting about watching people sitting about! If I'm in when its on then i'll read a book or watch a film, listen to some music or surf the internet ... anything else!
I don't have a problem with other people watching it, my problem is with the fact that I'm bombarded with the bloody show. I don't watch a lot of tv but all to often when i turn it on there's something big brotherish on. Either its the day highlights, or the evening live show, or little brother or fucking Davina McColl wetting herself because a house mate farted or whatever. :banghead:
And to be honest I don't think big brother is likely to inspire Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band or Dark Side of the Moon type creativity either so while I agree drugs present a serious health hazard i definitley don't think big brother is stimulating in anyway.
In a word, i think its crap!
Nice to see you on again tho mate
Sorry, you have lunch an dinner parties based around big brother?
Come the end of a long week my biggest desire is get out see my mates, catch up with my own social life - not the socail skills of a bunch of idiots in a house.
When it comes down to drugs you can have your opinion but you'll never fully comprehend why people do them unless you've tried them. Is that not fucking obvious?
I'm not sterotyping at all, I think wathing BB is a pretty sad activity that's all.
If I were to say you were being idiotic for example, would that mean I thought you actually were an idiot? No.
No, I never, and neither did my girlfriend, stop twisting it. You argued it wasn't sociable, I have shown that it can be, you don't want to accept that cause it goes against your own preconceived, stereotypicla notions of the type of person/people that watch bb. To clarify, she had friends over for lunch, then dinner, and then they watched bb. This is not the same as eating lunch and dinner to pass the time until bb came on.
So is mine, I've just told you how.
Without turning this is to a drugs related thread, no, I can't ever comprehend why people take drugs. But that's not the point, and you know that wasn't my point. You know they're dangerous, yet you still do them. This is why when you said 'it's up to you if you want to fill your body and mind with crap, then that's up to you', you saying that is ironic because, regardless of them being substances which are all invariably of differing quality, purity, sources, cost, potential danger, and so forth, you still take them despite the potential risks. You are, in effect, putting crap in your body. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.
You think that all people who watch bb are sad? Yes? Given the definition of a stereotype as:
A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
Then ergo, you are stereotyping. It would be exactly the same if I said drug takers are sad because they take drugs (I don't btw), it's still a stereotype.
Well, what would it mean? It's as nonsensical as saying, 'if I were to say you were driving badly, would that mean I thought were a bad driver? No.' It's a silly, superflous, and redundant comment.
Gosh, the joys of uni eh? I should be doing my transcripts just now, instead of being engaged in a discussion of the relative merits/demerits of bb and drugs
God ... maybe that's what i should do my disso on ...
No you havn't.
You argued that you and your missus can be socialable, having friend over to lunch and dinner. You havn't argued that BB is sociable, that is unless these parties are based around BB.
I suppose the only argument is that you spend time talkign about it amongst yourseleves but when it comes down to it what can you say about a bunch of weirdos locked in a house over several weeks?
No more than crap than you put in your body when you have a pint. Anyway, I think the point was that at least it's stimulating which is more than can be said of watching that rubbish. Many drugs out there are by definition stimulants.
My belief that watching BB is a 'sad' activity is not the same as thinking everybody who watched BB is sad. Is that clear enough for you?
One's a socaible activity which can lead to some very rewarding experiences stimulating mind and body.
The other involves sitting on your arse in a dark room watching idiots on TV and come Friday night, when most people are out living ther life, your getting excited about who's getting evicted. It's on TV every day, for several weeks, year after year. If there's nothing more constructive or enjoyable you think you can be doing, that's pretty sad.
That's very true if your talking about trashy films, but you can hardly compare BB to Schindler's List. Good stories whilst unsociable, can offer you culture and stimulate your mind whether it be movies, theatre or books. What does Big Brother do for you?
If you can watching people get pissed, fight, strip and get off with each other and then call it entertainment then good for you. I personally think it's a waste of time.
Isnt that what you do at the pub?
Used to.
Well, in your kind of pub...
It would be ironic if the act of taking drugs was comaprable to watching a mind numbing TV programme about a bunch of wankers in a house. But it isn't.
Well I live in the sticks so the pubs are pretty quiet anyway.
There are some here that are quiet, but there is only so many times you can pay £3 or more for a pint before you feel a bit ripped off.
Ignoring the results etc of drugs, what are you doing? Pumping your body with toxins or whatever (I know fuck all about drugs and the biology behind them) so you are filling your mind with crap. Nobody was comparing watching Big Brother with the effects of drugs but you.
Who says they're crap? You've quite happilly admitted you know fuck all about drugs, where as at least I've tried watching BB.
If they don't compare how can it be ironic? :banghead:
So drugs are full of things that are good for you? I've tried drugs but that doesn't mean I know the way in which the chemicals diffuse into your bloodstream and why you experience what you experience but whether it was one drug or all drugs, the effect one of them has is because it's poisoning you, so then surely it's crap which comes back to filling yourself with crap. So you think that people watching shite on TV, which is filling your mind with crap, is sad but taking drugs, which is also filling your mind with crap, is OK. The processes are completely different but the results, apparently, are the same.
Jumping in front of a train and drinking bleach both kill you, but it doesn't mean the two things are similar.