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Brain Damage Alert Over Shrek Ecstasy

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BRAIN DAMAGE ALERT OVER SHREK ECSTASY

Aug 8 2005


Pills pour into Scotland

By Derek Alexander



DRUG dealers are flooding Scotland with addictive ecstasy pills which cause symptoms similar to Parkinson's disease.

The green-coloured tablet - nicknamed Shrek after the children's movie character - poured into the country before thousands of revellers headed to T in the Park last month.

The ecstasy - or MDMA - pills were the most common drug seized by police at the music festival in Kinross and dealers are selling it for as little as £2 each.

But scientists working for the Daily Record, who analysed Shrek tablets purchased in a Glasgow nightclub, found they also contained methamphetamine.

Misuse of the powerful stimulant drug - also known as meth or speed in its less pure form - affects the central nervous system, causing symptoms similar to the severe movement disorder Parkinson's A technician at the University of Glasgow said: 'Methamphetamine is popular in places like Thailand and Japan and is rarely seen in the UK.

'I've been analysing street drugs for years and have only seen it once before.

'No one should be under the illusion it's a harmless drug and just a bit of fun.'

A police source said: 'The Shrek tablets were first discovered by police at T in the Park.

'We confiscated more of them than any other drug during the festival. We hadn't come across this type of ecstasy tablet up until then.'

The drug which is also known as Yaba - Thai for 'crazy drug' - can keep users awake for days, with some reporting they thought bugs were crawling under their skin.

Black Eyed Peas singer Fergie confessed to once being hooked on the drug.

Her weight dropped so dramatically she told friends she was bulimic instead of admitting she had a drug problem.

Methamphetamine misuse is on the rise on other parts of the world and is widely available in the Far East.

It is mass produced at illegal laboratories in Thailand, Japan and China.

Many users admitted they had switched from taking ecstasy to methamphetamine unaware they could become hooked. At least one in seven get physically addicted.

The drug can be snorted, injected or smoked. Users describe the sensation as a euphoric high similar to MDMA.

Alistair Ramsay, of Scotland Against Drugs, said: 'This illustrates illegal substances people buy often contain more harmful and deadly ingredients than they might have bargained for.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15832331&method=full&siteid=89488&headline=brain-damage-alert-over-shrek-ecstasy--name_page.html


"symptoms similar to Parkinson's disease" Huh WTF!
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  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,194 Skive's The Limit
    Wouldn't mind getting my hands on some of those. Meth and MDMA is very pleasurable mix, though obviously rather more dangerous than either drug on their own.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wonder if this is the start of meth appearing more frequently in the UK.
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,194 Skive's The Limit
    Nash wrote:
    I wonder if this is the start of meth appearing more frequently in the UK.

    There was a boom of meth pills back in 99/2000 (tri mitsis) but that didn't lead to more meth being taken in the country.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Methamphetamine has been linked in some studies to Parkinsons, though it is always after huge doses over extended periods. That is of course not to say that meth is safe, it is far from it, even for those well versed in amphetamine it is very powerful.

    If they are a mix of MDMA and meth then you cant smoke them and they wont have the addictive profile of meth because the MDMA will prevent binge use over long periods.

    This isnt anything that out of the ordinary actually, as Skive points out, we've had triangle mitzi's in the past and that wasnt followed by large numbers of meth addicts or any noticable increase in Parkinsons.

    However, meth and MDMA is a powerful and potentially dangerous mix, be careful.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hope some of those land in my dealers hands.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The Daily Record isn't for taking seriously.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sounds Good To Me ...two For The Price Of One.
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,194 Skive's The Limit
    J wrote:
    I've grown up a bit. Pills are shit.

    So those of us who still enjoy them need to grow up?
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote:
    So those of us who still enjoy them need to grow up?

    not necessarily.. but i wouldnt say pills is a good option, unless u like taking risks... there is a chance of parkinsons, and is it worth taking a pill..

    bah doesnt mean you will catch it.. just a possibility
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    quarfly wrote:
    not necessarily.. but i wouldnt say pills is a good option, unless u like taking risks... there is a chance of parkinsons, and is it worth taking a pill..

    bah doesnt mean you will catch it.. just a possibility

    The research which linked the two was actually conducted on methamphetamine rather than MDMA. So, given the dose disparity between MDMA and methamphetamine and methamphetamines much stronger action on the dopamine receptor its not hugely surprising that there should be a link.

    There is however no solid evidence to suggest an increase of risk of Parkinsons following exposure to MDMA.
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,194 Skive's The Limit
    quarfly wrote:
    bah doesnt mean you will catch it.. just a possibility

    You don't 'catch' parkinsons and I wouldn't say driving was a good option either unless you like taking risks.

    And is taking pills worth it? A lot of people seem to think so and I tend to agree with them.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You could play it safe your whole life and still develop an illness when you get older, or get run over tomorrow. You might be increasing the risk by taking pills but we're all heading for the same place. The only thing that matters is making the most of the time you have.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Vray wrote:
    You could play it safe your whole life and still develop an illness when you get older, or get run over tomorrow. You might be increasing the risk by taking pills but we're all heading for the same place. The only thing that matters is making the most of the time you have.

    Its not really a 'might' virtually every study suggests that MDMA is harmful, its a matter of how harmful and what that harm means.

    Plus if you are going to just 'make the most of your time' you might find your time a bit shorter.

    I'm not trying to say MDMA is massively dangerous, its not all that risky, its just to totally shrug off the risk is careless. You can do really easy and simple things to reduce the risk and harm.
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,194 Skive's The Limit
    bongbudda wrote:
    I'm not trying to say MDMA is massively dangerous, its not all that risky, its just to totally shrug off the risk is careless.

    I don't think he was to be honest.
    To accept the risk is not the same as ignoring it.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote:
    I don't think he was to be honest.
    To accept the risk is not the same as ignoring it.

    I think its a she actually.

    It was just the line "The only thing that matters is making the most of the time you have"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm a he, but I thought some people might think that when I said 'rush my tits off' the other day. Was just a figure of speech, or poor choice of words :)

    When I said make the most of the time you have it in no way means ignore risks altogether, it's just not worth sacraficing the way you want to live out of fear for what might happen. It depends on your outlook on life, the way I see it when we're gone, we're gone. You're only here once for an insignificant amount of time in the grand scheme of things, so do what you want with it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Vray wrote:
    I'm a he, but I thought some people might think that when I said 'rush my tits off' the other day. Was just a figure of speech, or poor choice of words :)

    I dont think it was that, I think I've only ever heard blokes using that phrase, sorry for getting it wrong.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Is yaba the same drug that the Nazi's used in ww2 to keep soldiers awake for days marching etc.? Sorry, off-topic I know...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Is yaba the same drug that the Nazi's used in ww2 to keep soldiers awake for days marching etc.? Sorry, off-topic I know...

    Well yes and no.

    Yes 'Yaba' normally refers to methamphetamine, the drug which has been used by many armys since WW2 (soldiers are quite often given amphetamines now, especially pilots). The reason for it being called Nazi speed is the myth that it was invented but them, it wasn't. However they did come up with an easier way of making it.

    But, 'Yaba' is only normally methamphetamine, quite often it will be a mix of various amphetamines and sometimes even have morphine in it too.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Had them over the past couple of months. Got a few sitting in my drawer next to me actually. Didn't really notice any sort of meth related high any of the times I've had them. Fucking wish I had 'cause the cheapest I can get meth for is £55 a gram :(

    Another pill scare story on a slow news day, perhaps? Heroin in pills indeed...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kiez what an earth are you doing posting here I thought your cold turkey had been sucessfull!!!!!!!1
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wyetry wrote:
    Kiez what an earth are you doing posting here I thought your cold turkey had been sucessfull!!!!!!!1


    i linked him to this post ;p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    oh good there is hope for me yet!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wyetry wrote:
    Kiez what an earth are you doing posting here I thought your cold turkey had been sucessfull!!!!!!!1

    Aye, jake was asking me if I'd seen Shrek pills about, and I had :razz:
  • SkiveSkive No discipline. No morality. No respect. New ForestPosts: 15,194 Skive's The Limit
    Kiezo wrote:
    Fucking wish I had 'cause the cheapest I can get meth for is £55 a gram :(

    That's far too steep. Especially as you can knock up fuck loads of it in your own bath tub for a fraction of that price.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    meth?? where abouts you from? i havent spotted any of that around yet

    well you know how shit it is where we live ;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive wrote:
    That's far too steep. Especially as you can knock up fuck loads of it in your own bath tub for a fraction of that price.

    Aye I know. Anyone we meet at raves/parties etc. always seems to be able to get it for between £20 - £30, but you know how that kinda pilled up chat goes:

    "Yeah mate I'll be able to get you it for £25! Gimmie your number and I'll give you a text about it tomorrow night!"

    The very next week you're having the same conversation with someone different :razz:
    meth?? where abouts you from? i havent spotted any of that around yet

    Glasgow! Apparently it's alot more common in the scumbag places like Dundee, Aberdeen, Fife etc.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kiezo wrote:
    "Yeah mate I'll be able to get you it for £25! Gimmie your number and I'll give you a text about it tomorrow night!"
    .

    i love them convos cos you know neither you or he will ever phone or text each other after that
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    i love them convos cos you know neither you or he will ever phone or text each other after that

    Aye! The latest culprit was an entry in my phone book under 'Zack the Raver' from last weekend ;[
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kiezo wrote:
    Aye! The latest culprit was an entry in my phone book under 'Zack the Raver' from last weekend ;[

    :lol: he probably has you something like "kool kiezo"
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