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Pregnant women 'lose their jobs'
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However, I can see the point of small companies, the cost to them is comparatively huge and difficult to cope with. These costs should be more taken on by government and not the company.
Ours is a step on, step off course, so theoretically if I got pregnant, i could just rejoin the course the next year with a different intake, but id lose my bursary in the meantime. No maternity pay for student nurses, which I think is unfair, although I think i remember reading about two student midwives who managed to sue for this and won.
I'll check into it, but they definately do pay for abortions, they dont want to loose the staff and it is I know definately more than one a year if the need arrises.
I suspect the fundamentalists aren't keen on women in the army anyway and them having to have abortions in just supports their prejudices
As an aside funnily enough years ago I was warned by a Minister that women were governed by wild uncontrollable lusts and that a young man in uniform was a magnet for them. The advice actually included cold baths to keep myself pure. I had difficulty keeping a straight face. Especially as I had spent three years in University getting rid of my purity and saw no reason why the Army should change my behaviour...
It's not a surprise. It's why young married women shouldn't wear a wedding ring to a job interview.
Prison for discriminatory bosses should be mandatory. Fines don't work.
I hope to God you're going to provide some proof to back up that statement.
And you dont think that will just harden attitudes?
The simplest solution is for fathers to get as much time off as mothers, and for single people to have an alowed 3 months or whatever off after x years service, takable whenever they fancy.
Alternatively, women can realise that it's a choice they have to make and they can't have it both ways. It might not seem fair, but that's life.
oh, and it would have to be a wonderfully loving relationship that would stay together because of tax breaks. :nervous:
If they want it both ways, why shouldn't they?
Why can't they?
It's not "just life" after all. If people want pensions they can pay for women to have babies ot pay for them.
No reason. I posted an alternative and can come up with many more. How about they work through their pregnancy til they drop and then are back at work a week later?
Why can't employers have it both ways?
Or single people?
How about they get paid lower wages to make up for the time they will be away when they come back until they have repaid there value to their employer?
Or why not pay women three times as much as men because they are worth more if they have kids and need to be secure to do so?
The only thing I would be against in any scenario would be if you were to use force to get your way or to take from me to look after you and yours. But hey, that's the way it is.
Bongbudda: I don't know if it would harden attitudes or not. I think in private it may do, but publicly company directors couldn't afford to be discriminatory.
1) Where does the government get it's money from? Oh yeah, theft.
2) Do they refund an employer the full value of the lost revenue?
Welcome, token female, I'll have two sugars, cheers love.
*yawn*
What lost revenue?
Besides which, the employer is only entitled to start complaining when the employee takes home the true worth of their labour. Which few, if any, employees do.
Fair point.
I'm sorry, they started to produce and sell goods on a voluntary basis last night while i was sleeping did they? Wow, and nothing in the papers either, imagine that. Possibly they upped there production of goods from fuck all to plenty as well. Who can say. All i know is that yesterday they got all their cash from coercion and fraud.
that which you refer to in -
Which is a -
After your next w/end trip to inebriation you jump in a taxi and tell the female behind the wheel "Take me home,please".On reaching your destination the price on the clock is £X.She says to you "That`ll be £X + (20% of X) please".Initally you respond "Eh?".She explains that she is adding 10% for her (future)holiday and another 10% for her(future) pregnancy.
What is your next reaction?
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firstly id make paternity and maternity pay equal in size and length so its not just women who are encouraged to take time off
having and bringing up a child properly is a full time thing so anyone who wants a child, and yoyu cant have it both ways though id like to see people who bring up children get more help from the state as its a 'job' that isnt rewarded enough