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I think the sterilisation one is facisnating. The world leader analogy is redundant IMO. You could make anyone chose anything with select text like that.
lol. 165 on the last one I took, but then I rewrote some of the questions. (And so got them wrong :rolleyes: )
And so is the intelligence test thing. The real difference between "doing well" and not is
1) you have to believe the same values as everyone else. If you don't you are gonna collide, and it really is normally more profitable to just go with the low.
2) you have to be persistent in following your goals. Which smart people don't usually do, intelligence being most of the time the path of least resistence.
Who designs the test, who determines who takes it and who pulls the trigger, smashes the knackers?
Not really. On face value the first two look like complete scumbags who you wouldn't trust. Looking deeper you find that they are possibly two of the greatest men who have lived.
The point is that pre-judging without knowing more gives you a false picture. It's why you say it's misinformation (it isn't, it's selective information) and sterilisation because of what might be, is the same thing IMHO.
Would you recommend sterilisation for the mother of this person?
She would be the youngest of 14 children in an impoverished family, struggling day to day to make ends meet, with an abusive father.
Yes?
Congratulations. You've saved the world from the atrocities of Celine Dion.
Anyone can make up scenarios good or bad relating to whether someone should be aborted/sterilised etc I don't think value should be placed on life out of what a person can/will achieve.
But it's directly relevant when the argument is about "suffering".
And Celine Dion? Is worth millions...
It'd be easier to legalise euthanasia, then the person themselves can decide to live or die.
Suicide is already legal, so such a policy isn't required.
that IQ means jack shit
I dont think its meaningless. Its a good indicator of potential, but obviously its not the only important thing.
The people you know aren't representative. The idea that intelligent people are all awkward nerds is one of the rare stereotypes without much truth to it. They're probably a little awkward at school when their interests and dispostions are quite different from the rest of us, but as they grow older and create their own more suitable environment they're more comfortable and tend to be more capable socially - and of course are high achievers in the workplace (with exceptions). We remember the awkward kid but don't notice the confident adult (with awkward exceptions - MrG?).
I'll find some reports that say different, when I get the time. I certainly know that the US army which is the major collector of iq data, and relies on iq tests for an awful lot of recruitment and job placement issues, considers high iq candidates more capable leaders. :thumb:
And what do the US army look for in an individual primarily?
The thing about high IQ is that it relies on hallucination more than anything else. My favourite bugbear about language not being experience is hardest to get accross to intelligent people, which is why the army etc are looking for them, they will never escape their prison on their own, and they are hard work to remove if someone else tries it.
The highest iq scorers are more able to understand abstract ideas than the lower scorers Klintock.
Yeah, but ask yourself why and you get a surprising answer....
Generals may have higher IQs than privates, but very, very few of them are off the highest IQ
On face value those first two are presented as possibly two of the greatest men who ever lived.Looking deeper you find that they are complete scumbags who you wouldn`t trust(depending on what constitutes "great man" and "complete scumbag",of course ).
I agree.
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why dont they kill themselves cause they carry the genes too :rolleyes:
Yea I can see how it would help to be stupid in circumstances like that.
What are you on?
Lucky we have stupidity then or else you might be speaking German