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Strange drugs

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Hsa anyone aelse gone through a stage of getting bored with the regular drugs and finding new unusual drugs to do.

I don't do anything any more beacuse too much acid fucked me up and eventually I had to grow up and get a job and responsibilities but whaen i was at the height of caining it about three or four years ago, me and my friend s starting sekking out randon thing that we hadn't heard of or tried.

I think it's more usual in the last couple of years and a lot of stuff has become more widely available. I'm not necessarily talking about what I would call 'recreational' drugs. more the sort of psychadelic or psychatropic kind. Things like Salvia Divnorum or 5 Mio DMT(any of the triptomines). Basically, mad things.

I'm interested to know what people have done and what happened when they did.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You might have tried it but i recon its allthat (cat)
    It makes you feel much more aroused than e and you dont feel nearly as bad the next day. its a white powder like coke that you snort ....really good stuff and it works out more economic
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Red Devillette:
    <STRONG>DMT... Basically, mad things.
    </STRONG>

    My mates and I made some of this shit through instruction on Erowid. It's more fucked up than Acid, and has to be the most intense buzz I've ever had. We smoked it in bongs and within 20 secs of inhaling I was flat on my back tripping my bollocks off. <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    Good fun, but it's a really harsh smoke and it's not something you wanna do often. We got bored with it and havn't made it since. Too be honest we were trying to make something to sell, but nobody was really intrested.

    I've done morning glory seeds as well but found the effects quite weak considering how much I took, and how much gut ache it gave me. <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    [ 02-05-2002: Message edited by: 'Skive ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah we used to go on Erowid to research man shit. Was the stuff you bonged crystaline or powdery and did you smoke it on normal tobacco or on oregano (unless you know what I'm talking about you're gonna think I'm nuts - right?). Unless you know what its called, which would explain.

    When we did the 5Mio DMT it was about a million times more insane than any acid I've ever done! Apparently you reach a higher plane coz it's the stuff that's released in you brain when you have a out of body or near death experiance. I stopped doing acid after that coz I kind of felt that I'd taken it as far as it could ever go. It's like the crack of the psychedelic world. One hit and your gone, not fun but worth experiancing.
    Originally posted by 'Skive:
    I've done morning glory seeds as well but found the effects quite weak considering how much I took

    HOw much did you take and how did you take them coz I found them ok, not great and not as good as Hawaian Baby Woodrose but a chilled out very natural low key trip as opposed to the full on lunacy on the triptomines. <IMG SRC="eek.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    [ 02-05-2002: Message edited by: Red Devillette ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    When you say usual drugs, does Magic Mushrooms fall into this categroy? I've done them twice and each experience has been a memorable one. I've also tried Salvia dried leaf on a number of occassions and despite following strict smoking instructions didn't get much effect. I'm looking to try some DMT but don't have a clue where to get it - do you think their might be some knocking around Glastonbury as i'm heading there this summer <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> Also, has anyone experimented with Peyote? Cheers.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Greenfields:
    When you say usual drugs, does Magic Mushrooms fall into this categroy?

    Yeah they are really common and English Liberty Caps are mostly not of the greatest quality but you can wicked shrooms imported now that FUCK you (in a good way) - proper acid style trips.
    I've also tried Salvia dried leaf on a number of occassions and despite following strict smoking instructions didn't get much effect

    If you were stoned or had THC in your system at all then it would have had virtually no effect it nutralises it. You can also get proper fucked if you chew large quantities of it and then spit out the pulped leaves. But it tastes like shit and it's an absolute mission!

    I got quite good effects off the salvia by smoking it in the morning when I hadn't had a spliff yet.
    I'm looking to try some DMT but don't have a clue where to get it - do you think their might be some knocking around Glastonbury

    Yes there will be some DMT at Glastonbury, I'd stake my life on it. YOu just have to ask around a bit. But for the trip of all time try 5Mio DMT. It's the living end - literally.
    Also, has anyone experimented with Peyote? Cheers.

    My mate imported some and absolutely lost the plot on it. Set aside a healthy recovery period if you're gonna do it and be prepared to go totally mad - not to be taken lightly, but then again the same could be said for all of the above.

    [ 03-05-2002: Message edited by: Red Devillette ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Did DMT once. I don't know how it usually comes, but this was supposedly a very organic form originated from S America and bought in California. It was a brown powder. We meditated 45 minutes and smoked it holding it in as long as possible. More of a journey than a high. The most intense I've ever been for about 10 minutes. You can't do it back to back b/c your body immediately builds a tolerance and you have to wait about a day to get the full effect again. Use to her about something called Ginsen seeds in college and the stories were rather frightening. Seems a little too delusional for me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We made DMT from phalaris grass adn we were left with this brown tar shit with crystals in. Not very pure but go me fucked none the less. <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    I don't know how many morning glory seeds I actually took. It was a nice mellow buzz, but my guts hurt to fuck.

    I wanna try Henbane (what witch's used) and Datura but they apparently carry quite a risk and there's not a great deal of reliable info on them.

    As for mushies, I've done three types and they all grow in the UK.

    False Chanterelle (sp?) funny looking yellow thing that was pretty crap really.

    Aminita Muscaria (sp?) (fly Agaric) quality. You got to dry them out in the oven and do up to 4 caps your fist time. Depite the gut ache the buzz was wicked. It has a number of stages. Everything you seem to do you exagerate. For instance if you wanted to step across something you'd make a giant leap instead. In the end it makes you crash right out. I remember going to sleep for ages just tripping out to myself.

    Liberty Caps are still my fave shroom. You say they're not of great quality but I've done brews that have made me black out in the middle of Southampton before. Psilocybin is one of the strongest drugs there is.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    DMT
    5-MeO-DMT
    Ayahuasca / Yage (DMT / 5-MEO-DMT + an MAO-Inhibitor to make the DMT orally active)
    Salvinorin (extract / salvia divinorum)
    LSA for a mild but interesting ride
    Psilocybin definitely.
    Mescaline > up next.
    Calea Zacatechichi extracts, a psychedelic-dream catalyst.

    can't get any of the synthetic phenethylamines where I live, would like some 2cb, 2c-t-7 etc

    The strangest of all has probably got to be smoked Salvinorin, or maybe DMT / 5-MeO-DMT
    they are pretty much in a league all of their own, they have a knack for splitting reality apart... they knock you off your feet
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ive tried eating bluebells because they are supposed to contain a natural amphetamine, but it didnt really work and it tastes like soap. morning glory seeds are supposed to be hallucinogenic, but i didnt find them to be, although the flowers are very pretty. ive grown opium poppys and then made tea with the flowerheads, just made me feel really monged. tried datura too but i cant remember what it did. i dont think magic mushrooms are considered a strange drug. i wouldnt even bother trying fly agaric mushrooms as they are really dangerous and youve got to be very careful how you prepare them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by rainbow brite:
    <STRONG> i wouldnt even bother trying fly agaric mushrooms as they are really dangerous and youve got to be very careful how you prepare them.</STRONG>

    They're not actually, but I wouldn't recomend doing any until you've researched it properly.

    They belong to a family of fungi called Aminita (sp?) of which the Death Cap also belongs. Basically you've got to know what your picking, but that aint that hard cos they're very distinctive. They're use in some country's is quite common.

    I like them anyhow... <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    Another thing I tried very recently, yesterday infact, was NO2. Unfortuantely I didn't have the chance to do a lot (it was in A&E when my mate was being treated for a bike accident) and I didn't get much more than a light head and dizziness. Will have to aim to get some more of that!!! <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I want to learn more about DMT, and it's effects. They sound pretty intense, 'n kinda scary. Also, does anyone know where I can get a hold of some in the Glasgow area, and how much does it cost for a good dosage?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    fly agarics can be very dangerous actually, unless you know how to prepare them properly, its very dangerous to eat them raw. i dont think anyone would mistake what they were, but a lot of people wouldnt know the correct way to prepare them
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fly Agarics are not "very dangerous".... there hasn't been one recorded and substantiated death caused by eating fly agarics except in young children

    The active molecules are Muscimol and Ibotenic acid, the upset stomach or puking that's fairly common is caused by a substance called Muscarine, a toxin yes, but one that doesn't pass the blood-brain barrier, in Siberia they eat these mushrooms (often raw) as food as well as for visions.

    Fly Agarics are listed as deadly poisonous in many of the less reliable mycological texts, especially government-oriented ones. The only recorded & susbstantiated adult death from mushroom-derived Muscarine poisoning occured when a man ate TWENTY-FOUR "Japanese Panther mushrooms" (amanita pantherina).

    calling these mushies very dangerous is like calling a fiat uno a very fast car
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    http://www.kwic.com/~pagodavista/schoolhouse/species/plants/mushroom.htm

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    `Another thing I tried very recently, yesterday infact, was NO2. Unfortuantely I didn't have the chance to do a lot (it was in A&E when my mate was being treated for a bike accident) and I didn't get much more than a light head and dizziness. Will have to aim to get some more of that!!!`


    as far as no2 (nitrous oxide)goes its pretty harmless, i absolutely hated it when i was having my baby, it made me soooo nauseaous, but some people love it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    smoked horse hair- i dont want to say anything else because it might be embaressing. I think the case book is still open in my home town for the breaking into the horse stables and cutting off an innocent horses mane.
    sorry phar lapp, it was nothing personal
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Why thankyou RainbowBrite!.... a direct link to just one of the less-reliable mycological texts that I spoke of.

    sigh, youre getting your drugs information from Microsoft!?... I love it <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

    [ 07-05-2002: Message edited by: Psilocybian ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    dont be so fucking patronising please. ive got a lot of my drugs information the hard way thanks very much. i dont think it does any good to make out that any drug is harmless, especially ones that do contain lots of poisons. im sure that in experienced hands then the dangers can be minimised but it is totally irresponsible for you to say that a poisonous mushroom isnt dangerous, just because YOU like the effects that these toxins give you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by 'Skive:
    <STRONG>
    Another thing I tried very recently, yesterday infact, was NO2. Unfortuantely I didn't have the chance to do a lot (it was in A&E when my mate was being treated for a bike accident) and I didn't get much more than a light head and dizziness. Will have to aim to get some more of that!!! <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"></STRONG>
    actually i did a lot NO2, but it is important to smoke weed before it to get high, effective is to use balloons filled with NO2, i personnaly have bottle for making whippled cream and bombs with NO2 i buy in local foodstore for 50 bombs/shots i pay around 6 EURO. Than i can't stop. The effect of one shot lasts about one minute maximum but it gets you higher and you can do more bombs in a row. Or fill few baloons with the NO2 gas and so on. But definitelly smoke grass before the NO2 or use the NO2 during smoking grass you find out alone how. :-)))))))
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As with many drugs such as Ecstasy and Alcohol, it is important to know what your doing before you try Fly Agaric. It is a modern myth that these mushrooms are really dangerous and a basic knowledge will provide you with a way to get high quite safley. Here are some nullNotes on the mushroom, and some information on Amanitas in general.
    <STRONG>it is totally irresponsible for you to say that a poisonous mushroom isnt dangerous, just because YOU like the effects that these toxins give you.</STRONG>

    Rainbow Brite neither of us have said that we think it's totally harmless, we are simply talking the truth, and it's not just because WE like the effects. You have to realise that these mushrooms are sold in shops and eaten regulary by people in the Netherlands, New Zealand, Sweden, Finaland etc etc...
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