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post graduate courses - would you?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited March 27 in Work & Study
although i'm only just coming to the end of my 2nd year at uni. i know a lot of students are panicking now becasue they are coming to the end of their final year and arn't sure what to do career wise, etc.
a few of my friends are going on to post graduate couses in sept. - although from what they have said, it seems that they are doing it just to stay in the familarity of the university environment becasue they don't know what to do with themselves. i know only one person who has a career lined up atm.
so the question is:
would you consider doing a masters / PhD / other post graduate course after university???
personally, i don't think i would.
although the prospect of leaving uni and trying to get a proper career is scary, its going to have to be done sometime. i wouldn't do a postgrad. course out of fear of going out into the real world. (-although the prospect is quite scary i think tbh :nervous: )
what do you think, then???
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm still only in first year, but my game plan at the minute is to do a post grad in Journalism. This is despite the fact I'll also have a Masters in Politics if everything goes accordingly. That's 5 years in uni and a hell of a lot of debt, but I'm acting on advice from a cousin who's a journo. She told me not to bother with an undergratuate degree in Journalism, but to do something I really enjoy and then a postgrad in Journalism because that's where the best teaching is.

    At times I feel like I just wanna get out and earn some money rather than build up more debt, especially when I read that a majority of journalists just have degrees in politics, english, economics etc. But I suppose it's a continually changing profession so I trust my cousin.

    I guess it really depends what you want to go into after uni and what kind of qualifications the career you're interested in demands from you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think if you've got a proper career plan lined up and you need to do a postgrad course to get what you want, then fair enough.
    but i don't understand the no. of people who want to do it just for the sake of it and putting off the inevitable career. i mean something like law or convesion courses like you've said in journalism, etc. it is part of career planning but in any other case and unless you're going into acedemia, surely there is little point. :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    otter wrote:
    ii don't understand the no. of people who want to do it just for the sake of it and putting off the inevitable career.

    Some people will have become so accustomed to eating tinned beans and staying up to 4 in the morning that the revelation of jobsville is just too much to handle I guess.

    I'll most likely opt for a post grad degree, probably in some form of biotech or something because its something I'd love to specialise in and it's very competetive. But I'd probably take a year out to do some work experience before jumping into another 3 years of studying. FS yer noodle would be fried. :shocking:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    not only that, but i applaud anyone who makes it to the end of a first degree and can then afford to carry on studying.

    there are grants and bursaries and loans around, but i know when i graduated, the first thing i wanted to do was not be quite so poor for a while.

    i guess i'd consider a part time postgrad course though...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm at the end of my final year as an undergraduate and i've got a provisional acceptance on a PGCE (post grad). Its not because i'm work shy or i want to stay in the uni environment, its because it's the only way i can get into the career i want, teaching.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am doing my Masters now and have applied for a Phd

    My resons for doing a Masters were

    -I like being a student (had to admit it)
    -I like my subject and wanted to learn more
    -The jobs market is very competitive and a Masters is very helpful
    -I considered that I may want a career ina cademe and thus more degrees are a necessary prerequisite
    -I was able to thanks to may parents..........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I know one person doing a PHD and another going to start a masters.

    In the science field then a masters or PHD can be very useful in getting a job.

    In something like Business or English a masters isnt always a help, though of course with a PHD you can teach it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its different strokes for different folks. It all depends on what you want to do with your life. Some do it through choice some through necessity. For example one of my flatmates is just about to finish his course in History & Politics. The only real avenue in terms of job prospects to do a Post Grad in teaching.

    As for me, I finish at the end of this month (Multimedia & Internet Tech if your interested) and all I know for sure is that i've had enough of academia. Never though i'd say it, but i'm looking forward to the real world :eek2:

    Thats not to say i'me not going to waste my last month or so being a student :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've got a masters in Sustainable Agriculture and Rural Development - my reason for doing it was mainly that competition for development jobs is so high that your unlikely to be considered for a job unless you have a masters and have done lots of voluntry work as well.

    I worked for a year before I started and also worked part time (one day a week) to support myself. But i was also really lucky because i had saved most of my undergraduate student loan in order to be able to pay my fees.

    I loved doing more studying but its probably only worth it if your really interested in the subject or you need it for your job.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To my mind postgraduate studies are a waste of time unless they are a) going to give you a real edge in x,y,z of a chosen field b) make you eligible to go in to sth at a higher level, thus securing more money or whatever bens c) without the postgraduate diploma masters/PHD access is barred to your choden career i.e. Accredited Langauge masters in order to be a translator...interpreter or a journalism postgrad to enter journalism (was told I had to as back in 2000 competition) was so fierce.

    Extra study for extra studies sake is pointless unless you really enjoy it and think of all the added expense unless you are going to be sponsored/get a scholarship.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    mazza wrote:
    To my mind postgraduate studies are a waste of time unless they are a) going to give you a real edge in x,y,z of a chosen field b) make you eligible to go in to sth at a higher level, thus securing more money or whatever bens c) without the postgraduate diploma masters/PHD access is barred to your choden career i.e. Accredited Langauge masters in order to be a translator...interpreter or a journalism postgrad to enter journalism (was told I had to as back in 2000 competition) was so fierce.

    Extra study for extra studies sake is pointless unless you really enjoy it and think of all the added expense unless you are going to be sponsored/get a scholarship.

    So did you do a postgrad in journalism? I've been told that the best places to do it are Cardiff and the University of Central Lancashire. Do you know any other places that are good for it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sheffield is very good as well and Preston too. Cardiff is excellent. Leeds University (Trinity). For London City University is escellent (would say the best in the country.) I went to London College of Printing (London Institute), now changed it's name to School of Arts. Great, good contacts, met Piers Morgan twice you get to mingle with people who matter in the indutry. be aware City is the best as it controls the scholarships market in the industry find out about the Sun Scholarship, The News of the World Scholarship, The Scotts Trust Bursary all through City.

    Separate are the Mirror trainee internship which takes recent graduates, Sky news graduate trainee scheme, NUJ merit grants, bursaries and scholarships, Times two-year traineeship offer, Daily Telegraph two year trainee offer, Financial Times two-year traineeship. It pays to be in the know. 100's and sometimes 1,000s apply for these. I got an NUJ scholarship. If you show merit, you can usually get some part funding, especially if you have a cuttings file of published work.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi.

    I don't really want to do any extra study because I'm in so much debt but I think I might have to.

    I would have liked to have applied for a PG Dip in print journalism but I simply can't afford the fees, most are around £5000. Instead I have applied to do a part time NCTJ course which is free and will allow me to work part time to finance myself. I've been accepted but it is really just a plan to fall back on if I don't manage to get a decent job by September.

    It's worth looking around for different courses, professional qualifications can be just as valued as Masters/postgraduate courses.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think it all depends on which subject area you are hoping to do a masters/phd etc in. i think in science a PHD can be very useful whereas maybe other courses (not going to name any as i dont want to offend people!), they are not really worth doing. a friend of mine is doing a masters in IT or something like that purely because he didnt know what else to do or he couldnt be bothered to leave uni. i think if it is going to benefit your career then go for it, if not then its a waste of time and money.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I want to do MMorse, which is a masters, not sure if that counts as post grad though. You get your bachelors then stay on for an extra year. After that I may consider doing postgrad studies because I'm interested in maths and stuff like that, I wouldnt mind considering a research led career (maths and computer science perhaps?) and a post grad is the kind of thing you need to do to have a research based career.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes, you are right postgrads are v. important for a research-based career!
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