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How to tell good E

SystemSystem Posts: 8,649 Staff Team
I don't have any tester-kit (not so professional yet), but I would like to know is there any way to tell if it is a good E or not (or if it is even a real one or not), just by the look or taste?

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nearly every E tablet sold is pure MDMA, which itself is very dangerous, regular use has been known to cause long term damage to internal organs. Most deaths though have occoured from people overheating while on E, or from a bad reaction from the drug. Although a few are mixed with impurities, most people have died while taking E containing nothing but pure MDMA. There is simply no such thing as a safe E tablet.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think you are quite ill informed here my friend, if every pill was pure MDMA i would be a very happy clubber. You are lucky to get around 30% pure nowadays, the rest made up of amphetamines etc. Remember the origins of the drug, the fact it was used by psychologists in the 50's to break down inhibitions in couples with relationship difficulties. These pills were 100% pure so no impurities, no problems, the amount of milligrams can make a difference but you would have to cain a lot and everything should be done in moderation.
    For a good pill you can look for a pure white colour, speckly brown usualy indicates ketamine. They generaly taste worse the purer they are.
    This is just a guideline from a seasoned hard house clubber not a black and white fact
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    green clovers..... nuff said
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I would like to remind people that the ecstacy tablet that killed Leah Betts was pure MDMA. Ecstacy is far from a safe drug. And as I have said before regular use can cause serious long term damage to internal organs. In fact drugs like ketamine and speed are safer than ecstacy.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i agree with dragonfly that ecstasy is not a safe drug - relly i suppose none are.

    but if u wer gona try it/take it then i personally wuld rather have pure since at least you would no what effects to expect.
    rather than taking something which could be rat poison or a completely different drug.

    its not illegal til u get caught :P
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In my opinion speed is proabably the worst drug you could possibly try, its side affects and the fact it is very addictive make it a very dodgy option and your purity levels here remain the lowest in any drug i know of. Research the leah betts case and read the autopsy you will discover that the fact she drunk alcohol all night and then drank to much water was the contributing factor. You can drown the brain by drinking to much without doing drugs
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Speckeled pills do indicate impurities but it would'nt be down to ketamine. K is a very clean white drug. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show_image.php3?image=ketamine/ketamine5.jpg


    No pill is pure MDMA coz the chemical dosn't can't be pressed into pills without a binding agent.

    Most impurities are not rat poison, oxygenating fishtank tablets or ground up glass. Other cheap drugs are the impurities most found in pills. Ephedrine, Amphetamine, Ketamine or even just plain old parecetamol or asprin are commonly used.

    You can buy a tester kit but it only gives you a rough idea what a pill contains or you can wait for it do be legalised (wishfull thinking) and have proper checks and controls put on it.

    Until then there's no real way of telling.



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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I had some pure MDNA powder a couple of weekends ago and it was the nicest feeling - quality.

    Leah Betts died from drinking too much water. If drugs information was more readily available in schools and TV she would had been better informed and she might not have died?

    I'll shoot your ego in a minute.....
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ... and I quote, taken from the House of Common's official investigation...

    "Leah Betts was not killed by Ecstasy; she was killed by a combination of Ecstasy and an excessive amount of water. The drug meant that her kidneys were not working properly, so she could not discharge water: she died from an excess of water. If she had taken Ecstasy alone she would have been all right; if she had taken water alone she would have survived. The combination killed her. "

    Her friends (reportidly) got her drinking approx 3 litres of water within an hour, remembering Ecstasy is a anti-duretic the body simply ran out of places to store this excess water and so after her blood pressure rose to excessive levels so did her CSF (Cerebal Spinal Fluid) which caused inter-crainel pressure (her brain swelled within the skull)

    Ecstasy has a good track record and although isn't 100% safe, it is safer than many other drugs... Ketamine is a far more dangerous drug, its an analgesic and is used as an anasthetic, its suppresses the CNS (Central Nervous System) and with any anaesthetic it carries risks... if someone overdoses on K (which is more likely than with E) and slips into unconciousness then they are in serious trouble.

    Ecstasy tablets these days are a combination of MDMA, MDEA, MDA, 2-CB, K, Filler agent, amphetamine and various other ingredients such as glucose power... Even testing kits aren't 100% accurate, remember they are only telling you if MDMA is present with the pill, they don't list all the by products.

    Truth is you can't tell easily if a pill is good or bad and what it contains, just because someone says 'yeah its pure MDMA or pure MDMA powder' are you honestly going to believe them? If its powder then I'd be very suprised if it hasn't been cut to increase its value (perhaps with glucose or even amphetamine) most users and indeed dealers would not be able to tell and that has been proved in tests using all the MDMA family.

    If most dealers can't tell then how much truth lyes in what they tell you, remember its business to them, they want to make money and will sell them using any means possible.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by dragonfly:
    I would like to remind people that the ecstacy tablet that killed Leah Betts was pure MDMA. Ecstacy is far from a safe drug. And as I have said before regular use can cause serious long term damage to internal organs. In fact drugs like ketamine and speed are safer than ecstacy.

    Sorry but this is absolute bullshit! Leah Betts died from drinking too much water, nothing to do with a pure MDMA pill! I just have to add that the papers failed to mention the fact she had actually taken other drugs in the past and wasnt only on E the night she dies.

    Regarding Speed being safer than E's...its simply not true. In terms of purity speed is the most impure!

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BADASS:
    In my opinion speed is proabably the worst drug you could possibly try, its side affects and the fact it is very addictive make it a very dodgy option and your purity levels here remain the lowest in any drug i know of. Research the leah betts case and read the autopsy you will discover that the fact she drunk alcohol all night and then drank to much water was the contributing factor. You can drown the brain by drinking to much without doing drugs

    Just said practically the same thing without seeing your post lmfao! Sorry to copy u mate <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

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