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e, legalise it ?
BillieTheBot
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i'm on currently on the phone to a mate and were discussing the finer aspects of legalising e, what do you guys reckon ? we've come up with the following advantages:-
1) control by the government would ensure safe pills, no rat poision if they do exsist that is !
2) taxation on licesend pills would make a tidy profit for the government, allowing increased spending on the nhs, education etc
3) education in schools would permit advice on things such as sensible dosage, water intake and the exact effects and medical background of an ecstsasy high
4) a greater understanding of exactly what ecsatsy is about for all concerned including the old folks
5) a reduction in crime on drug trafficking and 'dealer' crime
6) a dramatic reduction in alcohol related incidents such as domestic abuse, drink driving and youths brawling at 3 on a saturdat morning
7) a better society ??? i think we all agree pills ahve given us an improved outlook on life, making is generally more aware of the workings of life
anything to add ?
1) control by the government would ensure safe pills, no rat poision if they do exsist that is !
2) taxation on licesend pills would make a tidy profit for the government, allowing increased spending on the nhs, education etc
3) education in schools would permit advice on things such as sensible dosage, water intake and the exact effects and medical background of an ecstsasy high
4) a greater understanding of exactly what ecsatsy is about for all concerned including the old folks
5) a reduction in crime on drug trafficking and 'dealer' crime
6) a dramatic reduction in alcohol related incidents such as domestic abuse, drink driving and youths brawling at 3 on a saturdat morning
7) a better society ??? i think we all agree pills ahve given us an improved outlook on life, making is generally more aware of the workings of life
anything to add ?
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Here Here!!
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route
I hate to say it, but all current evidence shows that long term use of E can cause depression. 2 of my friends who have been taking it for just over a year now, at a steady (and high) rate, are starting to feel very depressed during the week, to the point where one of them is taking a break from them, and one has quit altogether.
But in the plus side, its made me a much happier person (I suffered from depression when I started taking them) and, I think, a much better person in general.
Another point is mixing e with anti depressants can be very dangerous to the brain, not mentally but chemically and is strongly discouraged. This i believe, as it is based on hard facts and scientific evidence, whereas the depression situation is based on half hearted theories from a bunch of scientists who are payed by the government emmmmmmmm !
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route
Another thing i m not of the kind of people that take e every single day... e is a special drug... it is magic... couple of times a month r enough, just not to spoil the magic.
2 years ago i was afraid about e and very negative to it... all it took was an amazing bird and a club... i had my first... then i had to apologise to anybody i argued against it.
I do not promote it, i love it. I was depressed for a period but when ever i was taking some tabs i was back to normal. Nowadays that i m having probably the best time of me life <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif">, when i take e i m simply having more fun... I hope what i wrote make sence as i think i got carried away...
take care
Dance and party as much as u can!
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route
Big problem is always whats in the pill, its far more damaging to people when your getting a pill which isn't 100% MDMA and instead a mixture of 2CB, K, MDA, MDEA, MDMA, Speed, filler agent and god knows whatelse...
I hate the idea that as a working citizen who pays taxes and has had no previous convictions, taking a drug could have me deemed as a criminal and possibly removed from society.
I'm not violent, I don't cause trouble when I'm out and yet I'm aparently a danger to myself and everyone around me... go figure!
One point of interest though... I heard that someone who deals with drug related deaths said that he had every kind of pill which people had taken when they died tested, and not one of them contained anything that could have caused the death.
yep ! nottingham is good in genenral, a better club night is hotdog@lost weekend, very small and intimate, mad cave kind of setting, excellent banging tunes and chill out areas and no piss heads or mean door men to give paranoia ! fairly regular crowd so its all very welcome to our happy family sort of thing ! a nice change from the superclub type setting !
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route
Suicide is a crime! but what i mean is around 70-80% of crime is drug related, which drugs etc... i will not debate, and besides it hurts friends and family, while not a legal obligation i see it as a moral one. Look mate just make sure you don't get caught ok? There are many arguements for and against good ones eitherside, i'll accept the legalisation of weed but no further cause who knows how far it'll go.
yeah this is a very good point. i dont take drugs, never have done... im not about to be dragged into a full on debate about legalisation either <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"> but i do agree with what justin's said, i dont see why a person who uses a drug should be deemed a criminal if they arent hurting anyone but themselves (in terms of long term health issues). from what i've learned on this site, cigarettes and alcohol are far worse than E (i do drink when i go out).
okay, the thing about E and depression... serotonin is a neurotransmitter, and the levels are much lower in depressed people *[see below]. anti-depressants (SSRIs - selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors - these are the most commonly prescribed type) increase the levels of serotonin in the brain, by preventing the chemical from being re-absorbed. the rush you get on ecstasy, and the loved up, relaxed feelings are due to the brain's store of serotonin being released rapidly. because of this action, some people think that ecstasy will damage serotonin receptors in the long term. this will result in low levels of the chemical, coming back to how depression is caused.
* a note though: it hasnt been proved whether depression is caused by low levels of serotonin, or whether the levels are low because the person is depressed.
One mention about the neurotransmitters and ecstasy is that it does restructure their genetic design and this is what scientists argue could lead to depression in later life, however there has been no concrete evidence to prove either one right yet.
Another thing about serotonin is that when you take tablets to overall (to a maximum effect) reduce your brains storage of serotonin to about 40% and this takes up to 2 weeks to fully resolve back to its previous effect.
Thats why I sometimes wonder why people take batches of pills day afer day on a weekend, ecstasy releases all the brains reserves of serotonin at once (hense the loved up feelings.. blah) but once the supplies have gone they are GONE for about 2 weeks (as mentioned above) so your NOT going to get the same loved up feeling as before and all you feel is the amphetamine chemical (and byproducts) of methadiomethaphetamine (MDMA) or one of its family members.
http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow
drugs may be the road to nowhere, but at least there the scenic route