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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    wantcoke wrote:
    hi im 14 if i had 1 line of coke would it kill me cuz im going to try it soon
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:
    plz reply i need to know

    hi wantcoke. I hope you do read my post even after 5 pages of replies! I don't think you are likely to overdose from one line - but it could happen. The problem with coke is you never know what its cut with & how your body will react as your body has never experienced this before etc.

    I am writing here as a coke addict - so please read this and make your own decision. I started off small and occasional with my use. Never bought it myself - had the odd line - then on "special" occassions me and a mate would say share a gram.... 3 years later I am addicted. I have a good job, earn really good money. I am educated, work hard etc but my addiction is slowly gripping every part of my life. It burns my cash, ruins my state of mind - I am paranoid, anxious, moody, I have stopped going out now and sit alone at home alone on the weekends snorting coke, suggesting my boyfriend go out and have a good time - really what I want is to be alone with my only friend -coke. This started with one line, the moved to the occassional line, then occassional shared gram, then gram after gram after gram. Side affects that may affect your decision to take coke (rather than the usual "oh you could die", "get paranoid" "get addicted" etc.... ) are asthectic things like awful spotty skin, scabs up your nose that kill, also weight gain - common to popular thoughts - getting addicted to coke can make you gain weight. It makes you not hungry, but also when you do it triggers the addiction centre in your brain - it makes you smoke more, drink more, ups your tolerance basically - then your body gets so over loaded with chemicals and crap that you blow up fat as anything.... then when you cant get it or afford it you get so down all you do is eat - well in my case anyhow. I reckon I have spent 10k on coke. I have almost wrecked my life - I need help and the reason I was reading this board is to see if there was any help, gems of knowledge to help etc.....

    Aside from this I helped my brother through a very long first and second stage rehab 5 years ago. He developed Psychosis from pot, acid etc then went on to self medicate with heroin & coke. He is 5 years clean - does not drink, smoke, do drugs and eats the right food. But his battle is constant - once you have an addiction - you are always an addict - just a recovering one. He goes to AA and NA meetings all the time to help keep on track. moral of the story is I thought it would never happen to ME and it did!!!!

    Anyways "wantcoke" - I hope that something I say will help you to make the right decision for yourself. :)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    limehead wrote:
    He is 5 years clean - does not drink, smoke, do drugs and eats the right food. But his battle is constant - once you have an addiction - you are always an addict - just a recovering one. He goes to AA and NA meetings all the time to help keep on track.
    :)
    interesting post ...and a very good one.
    i'm an ex heroin/amphetamine addict but ...the aa na thing was way to much for me.
    for me it was like replacing one obsession with another ...and no mistakes allowed ...UNCLEAN!
    being afraid to have a drink ...or a codiene was way out of what i wanted for recovery.
    i never had a problem with alcohol ...i know that many addicts go from drug addiction to alcoholism ...the most famous examples i know of being eric clapton and ringo starr.
    but the sucess rate isn't as high as you would be led to believe i'm afraid.
    if your an aa na person ...your one drink or drug away from disaster ...
    yet the people who have never had any dealings with such organisations don't have such fightening restrictions as unclean ...failure etc.
    i had a serious addiction with iv ...the whole lifestyle and ritual ...i needed to break that cycle ..,
    my gateway to class A addiction was throiugh cannabis ...i used cannabis as my gateway back out.
    i drink i smoke and i live a very respectable and fruitful life.
    i now know how to enjoy life ...without the restrictions and the fear of failure.
    don't get me wrong ...i know that AA and NA have worked for many people ...but it aint for everyone.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    interesting post ...and a very good one.
    i'm an ex heroin/amphetamine addict but ...the aa na thing was way to much for me.
    for me it was like replacing one obsession with another ...and no mistakes allowed ...UNCLEAN!
    being afraid to have a drink ...or a codiene was way out of what i wanted for recovery.
    i never had a problem with alcohol ...i know that many addicts go from drug addiction to alcoholism ...the most famous examples i know of being eric clapton and ringo starr.
    but the sucess rate isn't as high as you would be led to believe i'm afraid.
    if your an aa na person ...your one drink or drug away from disaster ...
    yet the people who have never had any dealings with such organisations don't have such fightening restrictions as unclean ...failure etc.
    i had a serious addiction with iv ...the whole lifestyle and ritual ...i needed to break that cycle ..,
    my gateway to class A addiction was throiugh cannabis ...i used cannabis as my gateway back out.
    i drink i smoke and i live a very respectable and fruitful life.
    i now know how to enjoy life ...without the restrictions and the fear of failure.
    don't get me wrong ...i know that AA and NA have worked for many people ...but it aint for everyone.


    Good post - really honest, and I hear what you are saying morrocan roll. My fear is the NA, AA lifestyle - that though, is he only route to getting clean that I can see..... (my brother is very happy though.)

    One of the battles I have, is with admiting I am an addict openly outside of my pseudonym in a forum like this - firstly as when I do I am committed to giving up or if I don't manage it, I am highlighting what a fuck up I am to all I care about! Then I am under the spotlight constantly being judged.

    I get your feelings about AA - more in terms of fear than confidence. Im shit scared of giving up a "normal" life by giving up coke, e.g. being able to have a social drink, not having to explain why I don't drink etc. However, alcohol is a big trigger for wanting to use coke for me. Im not really sure how to tackle giving up - I have not hit rock bottom just yet - I want to spare my family / job etc, so I dont want to hit rock bottom, but at the same time I dont think I have the will to stop myself in this freefall......

    so how did you do it morrocan roll? and how do you cope with knowing the feelings of using, and being addicted, but resisting but still managing to drink and not use? I find it quite hard to combrehend a time I will be in your situation........... :confused:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    limey ...where are you ...how old are you ...

    i did cold turkey in hmp strangeways ...three times ...three times of hitting ythe bottom of the rock.
    by the third time i had had enough.
    i actualy went to a very posh rehab clinic in kent.
    based on the twelve step prog of AA and NA ...i faked it to make it as they say.

    i had no intentions of going from one extreme to the other.
    i realy realy wanted BALANCE ...
    i consider my self to be 'clean' ...since 1986.

    what advice can i give you ...not sure my friend but do keep coming here.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    25 in hampshire rolly - you?

    harsh how you had to do things mate - good it worked for you though. Im jealous - bet thats not said too much to you, in respect of the experience. cold turkey is maybe too much for me right now in terms of the will or want - Im still pretending everything is cool to the outside world you see......

    Been good to speak to you though ;)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    limehead wrote:

    Been good to speak to you though ;)
    well make fucking sure you keep coming back to speak some more.

    i know your dilema mate.

    by the way ...you only think your pretending to the outside world ...your realy still trying to kid yourself.
    denial i think it's called but ...this place is so annonymous that you will be able to open up that little crack in your veneer just that little bit more ...
    'there is a crack in everything ...it's how the light gets in'.

    me ...52 this year ...fled the city for life in the country.

    do please keep coming back here ...nowt to loose and possibly much to gain.
    keep on keeping on my man.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    cheers rolly - honest kind words man - more appreciated than you could know

    You are right I think - about denial - maybe rock bottom kicks this into reverse action - somewhere I dont want to be, so I need to work hard on being honest to myself,.... and now.

    I'll be lurkin here - try and post, I promise

    limey
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    limehead wrote:
    cheers rolly - honest kind words man - more appreciated than you could know

    You are right I think - about denial - maybe rock bottom kicks this into reverse action - somewhere I dont want to be, so I need to work hard on being honest to myself,.... and now.

    I'll be lurkin here - try and post, I promise

    limey

    you realy DON'T have to hit rock bottom limey.
    many do have to ...but it aint an inevitable part of change.
    i had to hit a spiritual/emotional rock bottom.

    i know many people who have changed after twenty years and more of addiction ...without help ...just fed up of the whole fucking thing ...financial emotional integrity wise etc.

    'I'll be lurkin here - try and post, I promise'.

    keep that promise ...it will do you more good than it will me ...promise.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeah limehead, do keep in touch...

    might be good to keep an area where you can come on and speak to whoever you want (people like the roll etc) and whenever you want no strings...

    take care of yourself, you contribution was easily the most valuable on this thread :thumb:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rolly/Bashir - thank you - choked honestly.... feel really touched you both care to make me feel better - which you have done.

    Gunna go research / find an interest to get me through the boredom of life - which is why I probably wanna use anyhow....!

    Post soon, promise

    limey
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    limehead wrote:
    Gunna go research / find an interest to get me through the boredom of life - which is why I probably wanna use anyhow....!

    Post soon, promise

    limey
    i have to go to my bed ...

    finding something else to fill the void that drugs leave aint no easy task.

    the beauty about drugs is ...they work ...powerfuly ...amzingly ...and instantly.

    the ugly side of drugs is ...they work ...powerfuly ...amazingly ...and instantly.
    and thats a fucking hard act to follow.

    i'm very tired and brain dead right now mate ...my addiction seems so long ago to be but a distant dream ...it is hard to recall how i escaped ...it is hard to even recognise I WS THAT MAN!
    dealing smuggling etc.
    it's so distant ...18 years ago!!!wow ...

    but tommorow ...i will be awake and remember that yes ...it realy was me.
    last year i saw a guy my age return to heroin after years without ...it unsettled me ...frightened me ...brought back urges that i hadn't had in a long time.

    come back tomorrow limey and i will hopefully have some advice ...some guidelines that might help ...
    goodnight godbless mate.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Gunna go research / find an interest to get me through the boredom of life - which is why I probably wanna use anyhow....!

    i dont know if you know about this (im really sorry if you do, i really dont mean to patronize) but it might be relevant so i'll mention it.

    Do you know about prolonged cocaine use having a descernable effect on dopamine receptors, in a very crude manner it can 'highjack' the reward reflex of the brain by making pleasure responses more sensitive to cocaine but less so to other pleasures, such as sex (which is why coke can cause loss of libido)?

    The model that you are providing, staying in and using while your other half socialises and goes out, the taking over of this part of your life, could and i say could be a manifestation of this.

    This may seem ridiculously simplistic but have you seen your GP about this. He/she may be able to suggest some things to help if indeed you are looking to break this cycle. At the very least it could be a route to some kind of helpful intervention. I say GP because it should be your closest and most direct route to help, advice and treatment should you desire.

    Im sorry if this is just more of the same but i thought i'd mention it.

    Take Care :)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yeah, great way to talk to someone whos at least trying to get information on which to base a decision.
    Slinky; how do you propose kids learn to make informed adult decisions if every time they ask for information about something, people like you just turn round and tell them they deserve a clip round the ear for daring to think of such things...I dread to think what would have happened if he'd gone to someone like you quite frankley...

    taking coke at 14 is not (barring external factors) inherently immoral, it is just a very bad idea when viewed sensibly and objectively.

    If i had my way all this 'you-should-be-ashamed' bollocks thats been chatted in this post would be a banning offence /rant

    I would hate to run into you in a dark alley.
    Chill!!

    Like i said i am not anti drugs , but i have been there and 14 is too young.
    What kept me from trying anything when i was that young was the Fear of God(so to speak) that my parents put in me.

    I don’t know what it is like where you lot live, but here in SA parents still have the right to discipline their kid without fear of being sued!

    Anyway. any type of drug is dangerous. Coke is addictive and harmful to your heart, and if you start at 14 then there will be allot of damage already done by the time you are my age. As well as the damage that it does to your nasal passages.
    And there is no such thing as 'Just one Line'

    Where would a 14 year old get the kind of money to buy coke from anyway?? It is not a cheap habit.

    At 14 you dont know your limitations , i dont care how mature you are for your age!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the problem with this attitude is that it doesn work as an effective long term deterrant or even as a helpful developmental thing.

    If a child is hit or scolded for doing something there comes a point at which alot of them question it, and if they cant see a point in it they rebel. The 'fear of god' only works while they are able to have it put into them by older/bigger people. As they grow up they will discard it and make up their own minds, whereas if they'd been provided with a good REASON for not doing coke and a REASONABLE arguement its not so easy to knock down as an 'insolent' 14 year old child.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yep, but can you reason with a 14 year old as though they were an adult?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Yep, but can you reason with a 14 year old as though they were an adult?

    Bongbudda I believe you can reason with almost any age. Get on their level of reasoning and see what they see as important. I posted to "wantcoke" about things that are not good about coke that may trigger what "wantcoke" cares about at the age of 14 - getting really bad skin, getting fat (this is not a typo - look what happened to robbie williams), having a scabby nose that hurts...some men / boys won't be able to get an errection on coke ......... Of course there are many more things far more dangerous than this - I highlighted these also - but the point is you cant just say "no dont do it, its dangerous" - give "wantcoke" a reason they would value not to do this and we've suceeded........ I dont think patronizing them, will help anyone get their point across - a 14 year old, is old enough to know they are being patronized........Its also an age at which I remember being very sensitive to it...........I think I was a nightmare actually!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I completely agree with you, and thats why I think drugs education fails so often.

    Telling a teenage cannabis smoker they may get lung cancer is pointless, but telling them they will mess up their exams and get really dull if they smoke too much will help.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    yes excatley as limehead put it...

    this is reasoning in a different context, however the principal is the same. My arguement with SlinkyGirl's point as i detailed is that reason is an idea that adapts with age; a clip round the ear doesnt.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i am so tired ...please don't go awaqy.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Yep, but can you reason with a 14 year old as though they were an adult?

    Thank-you. :thumb:

    When I said hiding from parents I meant it more figuratively than literally. I have the utmost respect for my parents and while I was still that young, and living under their roof, I did not want to disappoint them. My father’s worst punishment was silent treatment.

    I agree that drug education that is given to youngsters doesn’t work :no: . But what did work for us was this guy that is a recovering addict would come and talk to us at school and he was honest with us. :yes:

    14 is still too young!! At that age you are not physically or emotionally mature enough to handle it and guaranteed that your mates who want you to try it are not equipped enough to look after you if something does go wrong.

    Your first time on anything should be with people that you truly trust. Basically if you pass out, fall over or something worse happens to you, do you trust your friends (honestly, and deeply) enough to take GOOD care of you? Or are they just going to leave you lying there, in the bathroom or where ever till you come right?? It has happened to me and it is scary!!!!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think this touches on a really difficult area, in that how do you dicipline teenagers, they are adult enough to make their own choices, but their decision making ability isnt as good as an adult.

    I sure as hell know when I was a teenager when I thought was a great idea really wasnt a lot of the time, you do have trouble thinking past the end of next week. (now I have trouble thinking back that far)

    But, if you treat them just as children and say 'Just say NO' it doesnt work, they are old enough to know thats rubbish. You need to tailor your information to the age group.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well i think that we have all tried to make our point and when you actually think about it , he/she had proberly made up their mind before even before they started thi thread. When i was that age , yeah you might ask for advice but you never really pay any attention to what has been said.

    WantCoke , i just hope that you are able to keep your wits about you and that you stay safe , it is your life afterall and you are only young and carefree once , Make the most of it. I think that my signature says it all.
    Good luck.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Slinkygirl; Havent you just contradicted yourself there then? First you say its really not a good idea, then you refer the person to your sig, which implies they should do it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Telling a teenage cannabis smoker they may get lung cancer is pointless, but telling them they will mess up their exams and get really dull if they smoke too much will help.

    Nah, I very much doubt that.

    Most teenagers won't listen, the type who smoke cannabis regularly anyway...they judge on personal experience.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You're probably right, but at least its more likely to get through, which is something.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    14 is still too young!! At that age you are not physically or emotionally mature enough to handle it and guaranteed that your mates who want you to try it are not equipped enough to look after you if something does go wrong.

    Your first time on anything should be with people that you truly trust. Basically if you pass out, fall over or something worse happens to you, do you trust your friends (honestly, and deeply) enough to take GOOD care of you? Or are they just going to leave you lying there, in the bathroom or where ever till you come right?? It has happened to me and it is scary!!!!

    wouldnt disagree to much with any of that, but my point was the first thing you came in with was 'You deserve a hiding', which doesnt help us in understanding this or the original poster in their predictament with this drug.

    I took issue with your original reply because it wasnt very well considered and was very judgemental. The above quote is neither.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:
    Slinkygirl; Havent you just contradicted yourself there then? First you say its really not a good idea, then you refer the person to your sig, which implies they should do it.

    I did realise that.

    You see, I have been torn between two sides to this.

    I am a drug user. And have nothing against using responsibly. So I would be a real hypocrite if I said “DON’T DO DRUGS THEY WILL KILL YOU”

    But on the other hand, my little sister wanted to try it and I said to here that I would take her out to a proper club and basically show her the ropes so to speak, when she was a bit older. Mainly to make sure that I could look after her if something went wrong. And she promised me that she would wait. Anyway she didn’t wait and ended up taking at a mate’s house and they were just watching movies and had a REALLY bad trip and her friends didn’t know how to handle it.She gave me and herself such a scare. But what I did learn form this is that even if you talk to teens on their level , they end up doing what they want anyway.

    So I guess you were right, yes I did contradict myself. And I do also apologise if I offended anyone by coming across judgemental or closed-minded. :blush:

    Lv SG

    Hope there are no bad feelings. :thumb:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its certainly a tough one, I guess the best you can do is give all the information you can and then hopefully they will be a bit safer if they do want to try things.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    wantcoke wrote:
    hi im 14 if i had 1 line of coke would it kill me cuz im going to try it soon
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:
    plz reply i need to know


    hey yo u dont need that kind of shit even 1 line can get u hooked my bf took 1 line an he was hooked its taken him 4 years to get of it we were goin out for 8 years and 4 were wasted coz of dat dont do it trust me it does fuck yu up :banghead:
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