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Ok, me Daze and Neph have been blasted for giving information about the location of drugs on the internet. Someone may come on here saying they got hold of some ecstasy and want to know the risks before a party. They come on looking for info and advice and they could get their house searched. Oh dear, not a good solution. I feel we should be able to discuss what we want in private and not have our houses searched. We come here for help and thesite should be here to help us and we should get the help we need and make our own decisions and be the wiser for it. Not to have our privacy and confidence invaded.

This police monitoring does not make thesite a very dafe place for us to come to for help (the main reason thesite is here) and perhaps we should just take the stuff without asking others opinions.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK AND TELL OF SITUATIONS IN CONFIDENCE.

Dom, don't delete this post, I feel all the site members should be aware of the shadow over us (cops) and we should all talk to our local MP about this invasion of privacy and confidence.

They should not be allowed to monitor every aspect of our lives.

Comments

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with Harry.. In the hour it'll take me to rigth this post(totally fucked n cant see the lettters on this thing in fromt of me)... If the police wanted to use this site surely some of the posts on underage sex, relationships n other topics should alos b banned, under the law they r no worse than drug taking... Other underagee(really difficult to write) talking bout films could have their house searched, or people who have been given access to overage films/bunked off school, can be fined £2500 for these offenses,
    Mtt saying had DJ'd at illegal raves could surely be investigated and his club looked at(which I bet has underage ppl or people on drugs in so ther4 could b shut down).
    Laws would say this nsite and othrs like it should have 18+ age limits.
    If people new on thesite names and addresses could be circulated there should b something that says that somewhere obvious somewhere obvious, for people to c.

    Do thesite staff think if people knew there most intimate secrets can be shared around and people could b arrested or investigated via there posts is fair.

    If i say I use cocaine reguarly(which I do and occasionly if a friend asks I will get them cheap cocaine) does that mean I am under investigation for dealing????

    I had a post under another section about one of my close friends having sex with an underage girl, does this mean my friends could be under investigation for peadophilia???(whatever the legal names)

    I have on several occasions admitted on possesing illegal substances and doing illegal things(which Matt also has admitted to)... Does that mean I am gooing to be arrested and possibly put down(bcos I have a criminal record) for posting topics or answering questions on Thesite...

    According to the supervisors recent post I would estimate around 50% of thsite posters could be under investigation from some kind of criminal activity. I think even talking or suggestion bout underage sexual/alcohol activity is illegal...
    Myself, Harry and Mr 'Da Boss' Matt have all admitted to illegal activity nin written statements... ther4 there probably is enuff evidence to convict us....
    I have been found guilty twice in court already... Both times have been given fines and community service, second time I was told 1 more conviction I would b sent down for a minimum of 6 months.

    Does writing on Thesite mean I could face 20 hours a day lockup and qa criminal record I will have to live with for the rest of my life???

    Ther r several recent posts under other subject such as sex and relationships bout underage gay/straight sex, r these people also under 'Final Warning' as myself and Harry r for(me) talking about the possibility of supplying a friend drugs(more a favour then n ething else) and Harry for expreesing his view about the police(which I agree with)...
    Y r the rules on the Drug section all of a sudden stricter than the rules of other sections???
    I admit I have supplied drugs to people, I have had sex illegaly, drunk Illegaly in pubs, bought alcohol illegally, been to illegal parties, been involved in thefts and 2night probably have had music on at above the illegal limit.

    Am I allowed to say this??? Do I have to put it topically???
    e.g. My friend is buying drugs off me bcos I can get them cheaper than I can, do u think this is right, considering he would by them n e way for more xpensive prices??

    I can remember a fairly recent post from a ME sufferer asking how to grow pot and where to get it from... Is he/she banned for suggesting he migth start growing cannabis [email protected]?? More than illegal than saying the polce r wankers...

    Is TheSite a supporter of freedom of speech bcos from recent posts by staff it doesnt seem it is.

    I had a lot of respect for the way thesite was run and supervised but bcos of recent, 'no quesions asked' deleting of reasonable posts (seemingly persecuting drug users) I have lost some of that respect and ease fof fealin that I had.

    If some1 had said Can u buy me alcohol as I cant get served... or Should I buy my 17 yr old friend fireworks would it have been treated with such sevarity???
    I dont think so... although both of those can result in large fines/imprisoment.

    Y persecute the use of drugs over other crimes freely admitted to here???

    N Y THE FUCK HAVE I JUST WRITTEN AN ESSAY FOR THE LAT HOUR WHEN I'M FUCKED(TAKEN SEVERAL KIND OF DRUGS 2NIGHT MR POLICEMAN AND STILL HAVE SOME COCAINE AND CANNABIS ON ME... WILL BE IN TILL 10am 2MORROW MORNIN... BUT THE DRUGS WILL STAY IN MY HOUSE ALL DAY I AM ALSO PLANNING TO HAVE SEX IN A PUBLIC PLACE 2MORROW NIGHT)(hopefully).
    BUT IM PISSED N ON MANY WEIRD COCKTAILS SO GOODNIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    P.S THIS POST BETTER NOT GET DELETED AS I'VE SPENT LIKE 2HRSN ON IT <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    [This message has been edited by Daze (edited 28-10-2000).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm gonna realise how stoopid that post is 2morroww... but for now I agree with it all and am hugely dissapointed with TheSites attitude!!!

    Will give u sober opinion l8r
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    thought I might add another post cos I'm so nr 300 n 2 posts ago I wrote a welllong piece
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    At 300... just to say cos of this late night ranting I am almost guaranteed to llose an xtremely important, money making, tennis match 2 morrow mornin so I hope my posts wont b deleted(last 2 dont mind about though)

    Goodnight//mornin....

    cant stopwrit9ing... damn drugs...but going to sleep!!!...after some porn <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt; but that;s all hhope u all enjoyu reading that shite cos I dont think n e of u will cos its too long!!!
    Stoooooooooooooop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    night night!!!

    bugger

    oops

    n e 1 got a drink???
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Quite the epic daze <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt;
    Nice one
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hehehe... the things we do when were fucked... Sober opinion is the same as the essay thing although still not quite sober...

    One the Tennis match so will be buying a bag pretty soon.. n my rooms leaking as well... case ur interested
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah, we are interested. You should put out a weekly "Daze" newsletter. Anyway, what did u go to court for.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Guys,
    Originally posted by dirty_harry:
    WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK AND TELL OF SITUATIONS IN CONFIDENCE.

    Dom, don't delete this post, I feel all the site members should be aware of the shadow over us (cops) and we should all talk to our local MP about this invasion of privacy and confidence.

    Harry, I never said that the police were trawling these boards -- just that they could if they wanted to.

    As for your point about talking in confidence, you need to remember that these are public forums, and by definition open to anyone who wants to read/post to them. How can we offer confidentiality with a forum as open and public as this? The internet is probably the least private way of communicating there is!

    Originally posted by daze:
    Is TheSite a supporter of freedom of speech bcos from recent posts by staff it doesn't seem it is.

    Daze, the only reason Matt and I raised the issue in the first place is we don't want anyone to get into trouble unnecessarily.

    I'd defend our right to freedom of speech until I was blue in the face, but the fact is, this right just doesn't come into it when people are potentially incriminating themselves with their comments.

    Some board members talk "hypothetically" when discussing this stuff. Can't do any harm.

    Dom


  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:
    I have on several occasions admitted on possesing illegal substances and doing illegal things(which Matt also has admitted to)... Does that mean I am gooing to be arrested and possibly put down(bcos I have a criminal record) for posting topics or answering questions on Thesite...

    I haven't admitted to doing anything illegal. DJ'ing at an illegal party (ie an event that contravenes parts of the Criminal Justice Act and/or licensing laws) is not in itself an illegal act, organising one is. (Not that I've even dj'ed at one for four years, mind.)

    As for the rest of it, I'm with Dom!

    matt
    techie
    theSite






  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by mattW:
    I haven't admitted to doing anything illegal. DJ'ing at an illegal party (ie an event that contravenes parts of the Criminal Justice Act and/or licensing laws) is not in itself an illegal act, organising one is. (Not that I've even dj'ed at one for four years, mind.)

    As for the rest of it, I'm with Dom!

    matt
    techie
    theSite


    So do you know Glen at Exodus matt?

    J9




    [This message has been edited by j9j9 (edited 30-10-2000).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What's wrong with you guys? As far as I can see, TheSite found a post that looked like a drug deal and they deleted it. Then they told people to be careful because it could get them in trouble with the police. End of story.

    You can't seriously expect any internet service to leave something like that up!!! They could lose their funding, or even be prosecuted because they are seen to be 'publishing' your information by letting you use the boards.

    Stop crapping on about freedom of speech. It's just common sense. Using the message boards for doing drug deals is an abuse of the service. They are there for people to discuss issues and give advice.

    *rant over*
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:

    I admit I have supplied drugs to people, I have had sex illegaly, drunk Illegaly in pubs, bought alcohol illegally, been to illegal parties, been involved in thefts and 2night probably have had music on at above the illegal limit.

    You do supply drugs...
    Originally posted by Daze:

    The likelihood of Neph buying me a bag is none, so in no way did I agree to get/sell coke to her.
    I dont deal in n e kind of drug.

    But you don't supply drugs...

    *confused*

    Ed
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorting your mate's out is still considered supply even if you're not making a profit, so RedEd - I think that's what Daze meant. He's supplied people but he's not a dealer.
    Correct me if I'm wrong daze
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nah uir right trance, thnx <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    What my main complaint with it was that it was deleted staight away her banned n me on last warnin.
    No questions asked.
    Wernt allowed to xplain or n e thing... The fact in no way it was arranging a drug deal on my partn even though it could be percieved that way it was more as Dom put it so well(defending other users posts in other forums) 'hypothetically', well hypothetical her asking me 'IF'I could get the drugs.
    As ive said to her since i can but its too much effort.. that sound like a drug deal??

    [This message has been edited by Daze (edited 30-10-2000).]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    RedEd, what I was saying is that someone could come here and say they got some E. Thats telling any nosey piggies to come round looking.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by j9j9:
    So do you know Glen at Exodus matt?

    nope...nearly played at the big Exodus festie by the motorway a couple of years ago with Oceanic.

    I played at the parties in north london by UNsound/advance party like Wood Green Bingo Hall and Manor House Bus Garage. They also did Camden Parkway cinema. *very* good nights indeed..!

    mattW
    theSite




  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    U ever played at n e of the Junction 10's???
    Pretty phat raves round here now
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by mattW:
    nope...nearly played at the big Exodus festie by the motorway a couple of years ago with Oceanic.



    I remember the aftermath lol.

    J9
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Daze:
    U ever played at n e of the Junction 10's???
    Pretty phat raves round here now

    Yeah I know those guys... did a party with them in London Bridge in March. Can't remember the guys name but he's got short dreads...

    I think I'm thinking of the same lot, they play really kicking jungle...from the Reading area?


  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by mattW:
    Can't remember the guys name but he's got short dreads...

    ok...I remembered...it's Dan!

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