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None of you actually give a FLYING FUCK about the elections, the fact that 57% of Iraqis voted, including women, and that it was the most free election in that region of Arab states for a long time.
Its all about America, and the US's (ancient history) support for Saddams regime in the war against what was then a far more dangerous regime (post-revolutionary Iran).
But forget the election! Forget the freedom! Arabs are not 'suited' to democracy eh! Its not their 'way!'.
Pathetic.
You really do have comprehension problems don't you?
A couple of points...
1) Support for saddam from the west is not ancient history it is twenty years which is nothing.
2) We support Iraq then and were quite happy for him to use chemical weapons which were supplied to him on the Kurds, yet this was not commented on until the build up to the invasion
3) Imposing democracy like what the US and the UK have done will not bring stability to Iraq. Democracy if it is to survive must develop slowly from within not be force upon a state by an outside power
not having free elections?
Do you care about this man shaking hands with Dubya recently
being a brutal monster who boils people alive, persecutes minorities and sends 5-year-olds to work cotton fields?
Or do you, as I suspect, not give a flying fuck about the plight of the people of Uzbekistan so long as your idols see their President as a valuable ally?
Please spare yourself any further embarrassment by try to lecture others about freedom and democracy.
flawed, more like there being a election and its like "you can vote for who you want but we cant tell you any information about the candidates"
its almost like elections under saddam with him as the only choice, and your voting for the same party just different candidates at least they knew who saddam was
Well no, its not, yes there were problems with the list, but there was more of a choice and for a change the South of the country might actually get a voice.
Its a step in the right direction, hopefully the real and full general elections in December will be better still.
personally i think theyll go for a authoritarian not very democratic party to give 'stability'
kind of like russia
Well if they do thats their choice, and at least they are sort of on the way to having a proper choice.
Yes it wasnt great, but I really dont want forever to be shitting on any efforts there. Who knows Aladdin and Clandestine might be right, the whole world is completely fucked and run by 'Big Business', but to me this is a positive sign.
And despite protestations from the right-wingers to the contrary, the illegal war and invasion of Iraq cannot and doesn't justify this. It's not as if Bush and Blair cared much about free elections and democracy to start with- remember the infamous WMDs that were going to destroy us all, and all those links with terrorism Saddam had :rolleyes: Those were the only reasons given at the time- though naturally they kept moving the goalposts as one by one all their claims were exposed as dirty fucking lies.
We must NEVER let the chimp and his poodle live this down. In the interests of justice and the names of the 100,000 people plus who have died in the last 22 months for the sole purpose of securing lucrative oil revenues.
Like you said a while back you've got to laugh havent you, its too awful not too.
Controll of Washingtons IMF will make nonsense of ant pretence that Iraq has a soverign or representaion Govt capable of taking decions based on the interests of Iraqi people, so it will make it harder for the yanks, and their hod carriers, us the brits to withdraw for at least ten years.
After debate it was agreed that 80% of SH debt would be written off, althougth the Iraqis agreed, they've never been shown evidence to support the 'claim' that the debts with interest add up to 120 billion.
Did anyone see the interview on Newsnight last night?
when people see how iran is surrounded and the permanent and semi permanent military positions with supply lines etc being established ...already established and growing should i say ...it all becomes pretty clear ...theres no room left for bullshit.
america have a plan and they are there to stay.
I'm glad that democracies have suddenly started working again. And that the Imams are now going to lose power. And that Iraq is free from tyrants.
Except of course none of the above is true.
The occupation won't end. The resistance won't end, And whatever happens, the west will rule Iraq.
Perhaps you could sort out the kunt that rules your country and Iraq, and let the Iraqis sort out their own country.
If you really care about Iraqis, that would probably be the way to go.
And what makes you so sure you'll still be living at 100? Join the army and get sent to Iran (no dount where we're going next), you'll probably be dead by 30.
Keep talking shite you arrogant little child, i'll be there pissing myself laughing when it comes back to kick you in the balls :thumb:
You smoke cigarettes don't you?
How pathetic!
Luke, you can't handle arguements on an Internet forum, when this happens you pack up your shit and you run the fuck away and say one of your typical comments like 2whatever man, im done".
Yeah, you're really gonna be cut out for the army!
And your age had nothing to do with me calling you a child, it's mental ability. You seriously need to grow up, and stop acting like total idiot. Just face it, the sooner you do the better.
Giving him a bit too much credit there I think. Judging by everything he says on here his mental ability is that of a 12 year old. Whenever someone disagrees with him he acts like a total pussy and runs away.
What is this about then?
Worst. Comeback. Ever.
If you wanna make a good comeback, feel free to do it in PM, I don't wanna get another warning about fucking threads up ;o
Abusing any substance will cause damage to your body...
Have only recently attended a funeral as someone I knew died because of alcohol abuse, Weed can be damaging but so can legal substances such as alcohol and fags, yet we have not banned them...
A little bit of anything won’t harm you it is when a person starts to abuse that substances then problems arise. Also Alcohol is extremely difficult to quit when you have an addiction to it so is cigarettes and the damage a person can inflict on themselves is high.
It scares me that people like you are allowed to walk the streets free matadore
please please ...someone give me a story ...
is that the kind of democracy that iraq is becoming?
i think the very obvious answer is not quite ...but sort of.