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who do you want??
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who will you be voting for in the election based upon their values and beliefs? in a way im quiete proud of the British people as they are not easily swayed by candidates kissing babies and making promises that they cant keep (unlike naive Americans voting for a certain power hungry president) but what do you really believe in?
not sure if this makes sense so an example is...
in a perfect world id take labours unemployment and schooling policy without the student fees, conservatives asylum policy and some aspects of the ukip's exclusion plans from the eu.
not sure if this makes sense so an example is...
in a perfect world id take labours unemployment and schooling policy without the student fees, conservatives asylum policy and some aspects of the ukip's exclusion plans from the eu.
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same here - i'm lost really. i feel i should vote - but none of the parties stand for the same htings as me
For a while the Tories and Laboue were fairly indistinguishable but the Tories immigration/asylum plans are so appalling that I would vote for Labour to avoid them
Truly a sorry state when you have to vote for a party you dislike very strongly because the main opposition are so appalling, and I am not any kind of extremist...... :mad:
You could tactically vote, i.e. for the one you think is least bad and has a chance of winning.
personally, i stand for a lot of the things the green party stand for. i think they need more seats and more influence. i think that if they were the dominant party in power though it could be disastrous because they don't have a rounded enough view.
Indeed, it might be nice to have one or two MP's from the Green's but they would be diabolical at running the whole country.
Oh well, they wont ever get a seat in the FPTP system.
And whoever said they like ukip are mad, i'd sooner join europe than america any day - no offence to american people, just the current political air in america is bad and dark and i don't know where the trouble will end.
Spoke to my Mum about this the other day, and she said she was thinking of voting UKIP :nervous:
I dream of 2 things. Politicians who actually work for the betterment of their area and of a country where terorists don't literally hold a gun to our heads and threaten violence if they don't get every single thing their way.
http://www.iwca.info/
im praying for a REDUCED labour majority!
No mention of their IRA-supporting background eh?
Probably vote Green myself.
Here you go - http://www.greenparty.org.uk/
The Green Party is a good vote, it's a protest but at least they're well intentioned. I might join them actually...
There's absolutely no point in voting for any of the big three, anyone who does will do so through sheer ignorance & narrow mindedness.
i don't have too much of a problem with that
I'll also be canvassing for which ever parties policies appeal to me the most around my local area.
I couldn't stand a 3rd labour term, if there's one thing the USA have right, it's only allowing presidents to serve 2 terms.
If Gordon Brown were to stand for prime minister, maybe i would vote labour, because Gordon Brown strikes me as someone who would do something for the good of the country (much like David Lloyd George) whereas Tony Blair strikes me as someone who's intentions are based around the good of his party.
Why?
Why don't you have a problem with the IRA? Or with a party having an IRA supporting background? Do you support the atrocities committed by the IRA in the past?
I didn't ask you
Do you support the atrocities carried out by the British Army in Northern Ireland?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
I've never understood why people on the left supported PIRA except through short-sightedness.
Why the fuck would Marxists want to involve themselves in a religious & national conflict? And why support people fighting for unification of a country under some kind of theocracy (which Ireland was)?
I wonder what the English working class will make of it all...unless of course the IWCA go the BNP path..."veneers of respectability" eh?
No.
If the IRA had exclusively targeted the British Army in their attacks I could understand your position. Although I still wouldn’t agree with it. But the IRA targeted innocent people who had absolutely nothing to do with the conflict; normal ordinary people in pubs and out shopping – people who had absolutely nothing to do with whatever wrongs the British Army had done.
Btw, you still haven't answered my questions.
your post is a typical mistake people always make in reference to the conflict.
the UDA was a legal organisation until 1992 by which that stage they killed over 500 innocent people, gonna blame the british government now? no thought not.
I think that a lot of the IRA's tactics were dispicable. But politically they had a point - British rule in Northern Ireland was imperialist and treated Catholics like second class citizens. Look it up, its all in the history books. The British Army and state murdered Republicans in cold blood, tortured them and imprisoned them without trial and commited such acts as Bloody Sunday. From a Republican point of view (and my mum is a Northern Irish protestant so I know a little about both sides), police and army in Nothern Ireland were legitimate targets. Now I don't necessarily share this view but I do understand it.
i know your opinion, I'm asking for H-F's opinion