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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I understand what your saying ginner but come on, you seriously don't ask yourself all these questions before you have sex. .

    People *should* ask these questions of themselves though because it is a possibility. The questions of "what would I do if...?" should not be ignored, and if someone is not able to face them then they shouldn't be having sex.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    wish my boyfriend had asked himself those sort of questions before sleeping with someone last summer (we'd broken up) shes now expecting his child and being really horrible to him
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mist wrote:
    People *should* ask these questions of themselves though because it is a possibility. The questions of "what would I do if...?" should not be ignored, and if someone is not able to face them then they shouldn't be having sex.
    The question you have posted is a different question to the what I was talking about. Asking yourself whether your partner will be a good father and a good husband is totally different in my opinion and a bit ott. Tell me how you could know whether the guy will be a good father/husband?? You can ask yourself "what if..." but not if he's marriage material.
    You have to be aware of the consequences and your question is valid. But sex imo is fun, I don't have sex with someone because I want to marry them, be the father of their child etc. etc. etc. I'm having sex with my gf now because we both enjoy it, I haven't weighed up whether she will be a good mother or wife, I'm too young to be thinking like that and i'm 22.

    Just to point out I also said "I understand what your saying ginner", I just thought it was taken to an extreme.
    ETA: me and my gf take precautions and don't "plan" on having a baby, mistakes happen which is fair enough but you can't go about planning for mistakes all your life. If you planned for mistakes all your life you wouldn't have time to eat your tea never mind have sex.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The question you have posted is a different question to the what I was talking about. Asking yourself whether your partner will be a good father and a good husband is totally different in my opinion and a bit ott. Tell me how you could know whether the guy will be a good father/husband?? You can ask yourself "what if..." but not if he's marriage material..

    i don't see why you shouldn't be able to consider if your partner would make a decent father / mother. It should be a consideration, unless

    a) You are a bloke and consider that should your gf fall pregnant you will just fuck off
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    b) You are a girl and consider that should you get pregnant you will tell your boyfriend to fuck off and bring the kid up yourself.

    I can't see why you would ask the question of yourself and not of your sexual partner, that makes no sense to me at all.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Only way I can explain is by using me as an example which I did in my last post. I have sex with my gf because its fun, I don't have sex with her to make babies. I've talked in the past with my gf about it and with previous gf's, the "what if you get pregnant"?? My last 2 gf's both have had different answers but at the end of the day even if they do get pregnant that doesn't mean I'm gonna marry them, they may not want to marry me, I might not want to marry them so thats the "would he be a good husband" question out of the way. This also doesn't mean I won't be a good father but how the hell am I meant to know if am gonna be a good father and if I don't know how the hell is my gf gonna know. Thats a question that can only be answered once you've being a father.
    This still all goes back to the fact of planning for mistakes, forget pregnancy and think of life. If you planned for everything that could go wrong in life, man your head would be fucked up and like I said before you'd be so busy planning for stuff to go wrong you wouldn't have time for anything.
    anyhows gotta go, buzzer at works just gone.
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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    In my opinion you need to be responsible to have sex. There are too many people out there who are not responsible enough to have sex and get themselves into serious problems. We see it on here all the time.

    IMO if you are not able to take all the responsibilities for your actions you should not do it. There is a possibility of getting pregnant with having sex so you should be aware of this when going into bed with some random guy.

    You need to know fully about contraception too.

    Having sex is not a thing to be taken lightly and if you think it's just "a 10 minute fuck" or whatever then you are not taking full responsibility for all your actions.

    Maybe I am quite prudish in my beliefs but I would not consider getting into bed with someone unless I knew perfectly well what I was doing and the possible consequences.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There is a possibility of getting pregnant with having sex so you should be aware of this when going into bed with some random guy.
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    Random guy? Hes my boyfriend!

    But I understand fully what you mean. He said he would never do it without a condom, and I'm on the pill aswel, so we are pretty secure :yes: Thanks very much for the help :)

    Sarah xxxx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think im going to go with most of you desicions and go and experiment before I jump into the deep end (or jump into bed, lol).

    And of course Im listening to you all about the contraception. I certainly wouldn't want to get pregnant at this age, and my boyfriend doesn't want that happening. I am on the pill, and he certainly would use a condom, is that the safest thing to do?

    Sarah xxxx
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    littlemissylittlemissy Posts: 9,972 Supreme Poster
    Smarah wrote:
    There is a possibility of getting pregnant with having sex so you should be aware of this when going into bed with some random guy.
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    Random guy? Hes my boyfriend!

    But I understand fully what you mean. He said he would never do it without a condom, and I'm on the pill aswel, so we are pretty secure :yes: Thanks very much for the help :)

    Sarah xxxx

    Sorry, I wasn't talking on reference to you just then - I was being more general.

    My point was that there are too many people who do not think fully about the consequences of having sex.

    However, if you think that you are ready for it, and have thought it through properly then my advice is to wait a month or so and if you still feel the same way then go for it.

    I think you are making the right decision by waiting a bit. I also think you have your head screwed on right by actually making that decision.

    Good luck with what you decide.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This is really disturbing. A 14 year old girl and a 13 year old boy. I'm sorry but you shouldn't be having sex under 16, especially not at your age. That's why they have laws for this. You shouldn't even want it. You just think you do because it's what you see on Hollyoaks. I guarantee you that if you were to have sex now, you would regret it in a few years' time, if not straight after.

    As littlemissy said, you're making the right decision by waiting, I just hope you stick by it.

    I know I shouldn't be all judgmental and shit but this is getting rediculous. Where are these kids' parents?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Smarah wrote:
    I think im going to go with most of you desicions and go and experiment before I jump into the deep end (or jump into bed, lol).

    And of course Im listening to you all about the contraception. I certainly wouldn't want to get pregnant at this age, and my boyfriend doesn't want that happening. I am on the pill, and he certainly would use a condom, is that the safest thing to do?

    Sarah xxxx

    Technically no. The safest thing to do is to not have sex.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    HunnyPot wrote:
    This is really disturbing. A 14 year old girl and a 13 year old boy. I'm sorry but you shouldn't be having sex under 16, especially not at your age. That's why they have laws for this. You shouldn't even want it. You just think you do because it's what you see on Hollyoaks. I guarantee you that if you were to have sex now, you would regret it in a few years' time, if not straight after.

    As littlemissy said, you're making the right decision by waiting, I just hope you stick by it.

    I know I shouldn't be all judgmental and shit but this is getting rediculous. Where are these kids' parents?

    It's not an ideal situation, but it's better to give them the information that they need, and draw upon one's own experiences so that they can go away and make their own minds up, rather than just say 'Don't do it' - how often does that really work?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    HunnyPot wrote:
    This is really disturbing. A 14 year old girl and a 13 year old boy. I'm sorry but you shouldn't be having sex under 16, especially not at your age. That's why they have laws for this. You shouldn't even want it. You just think you do because it's what you see on Hollyoaks. I guarantee you that if you were to have sex now, you would regret it in a few years' time, if not straight after.

    As littlemissy said, you're making the right decision by waiting, I just hope you stick by it.

    I know I shouldn't be all judgmental and shit but this is getting rediculous. Where are these kids' parents?


    I am getting a little tired of everyone saying that if you have sex under 16, you'll regret it when you're older - fair enough that a lot of people might, but I do not know one person that waited until 16 to lose their virginity and I also do not know one person that regrets it, including myself. At 14, I was the same size, height, breast size etc. as I am now, I had exactly the same perspectives and attitudes towards sex and relationships, I was as ready to have sex as I am now and I've never regretted it for an instant. As has already been said, being 16 doesn't suddenly make having sex okay, if it were my son or daughter I would prefer them to lose their virginity in a relationship at 14 than in a one night stand at 16.

    As for "you shouldn't even want it" - why the hell not! Children get sexual urges as young as the age of 8 these days and many begin exploring there bodies at these ages - of course it isn't something as a parent I would find easy to accept, but it is true nonetheless. I think it is perfectly normal for a 14 year old girl who has been having periods for several years, is mostly or fully developed to want to have sex with someone else. Throughout the ages girls have been expected to start having children at the age of 13-15, I think its good that there are now laws in place to protect children and young teenages from peadophiles and from it being socially acceptable to start having children this young, but it still doesn't mean that no one under 16 is ready to have sex - there are probably plenty of 14-15 year olds out there that are more mature than some 18-19 year olds I know.

    I think it is insulting to young people to suggest that they only want sex "because its what their friends are doing" or "because they saw it on Hollyoaks". Perhaps young people are influenced by peer pressure and pressure from the media etc in some circumstances, but there are also a large proportion of young people who enter into a sexual relationship because they feel ready, because they are with someone that they love and because they are mature enough to do it.

    Sorry for the rant but it is something I feel very strongly about, I am aware that there are still a lot of young people who shouldn't be having sex, who aren't mature enough, but this girl seems to have it sorted to me - her boyfriend and her have discussed it in a mature way, they have both talked about and actively sought out contraception, neither of them is pressurising the other and they are willing to let their relationship develop emotionally and sexually before they take the final plunge. Compared to some people I know who are over 16 but "don't use a condom because it feels better" and who sleep with several different people in the space of the average month, I don't really see much wrong with this particular situation. Perhaps its just me..! :nervous:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What's the rush?

    People's bodies and desires develope at different rates, and perhaps you really do feel ready to go ahead and sleep with your boyfriend. I've always found it strange to have a legal age limit for doing something willingly with your own body.
    That said, the law exists now, and I would recommend sticking to it. Pregnancy asside, you and your boyfriend can get into trouble if anyone finds out.
    The other thing I'd like to mention, and I don't mean to sound patronising, but at the age of 14, not many people really know what love is. I know I didn't, when I look back at the relationships I had. When you are older, you may look back and wish you had waited for someone even more special to come along. And if this guy really does love you, then the relationship should last with or without sex, so ask yourself if it isn't worth waiting until it is legal.
    Just be careful, and think about this all rationally. It may seem unfair, but I really believe that now is not the time. Don't be in such a hurry to do what the adults are doing - have a bit more childhood while you can.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sex is a potentially life changing thing to enter into. How in the name of god can you be mature enough to make that decsion at 13 and 14 respectivley. I find it disturbing that children (which is what they are afterall) are feeling the need to have sex so early into thier lives. The law is there for a very good reason, its there to attempt to protect you. Also, at 14, it most certainly isn't love, its a fasicnation of 'something new' to play with. My advice would be to wait as close to being 16 as you can. Think of your future, I know girls are often called more mature than boys, but 13 and 14 - come on.

    Leave well alone, but I guess its nothing less that we've come to expect in this world of ours today.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    in answer to the question sarah asked - if she is going to have sex then using the pill properly and a condom as well every single time is the safest thing u can do apart from not doing it. the key points here are make sure you are taking your pill correctly and that the condom goes on before he even thinks about going near your girly bits - one person on these boards thought it was ok for her boyfriend to go in then come out to put a condom on, which it most definately is NOT. read the instructions properly and practice putting condoms on (both of u) before you get more intimate- it doesnt matter if they are wasted, u can get them free from alot of places.its better to waste a few and be confident about using them than to save them and use them wrong.
    spend a few more months just sexually getting to know each other and when u eventually do do it, you will both feel more comfortable about it.

    just out of interest, are you both able to talk to your parents or do you not have that sort of relationship?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    God, you're 14. He's 13. FUCK!

    Heavy petting aye, because everyone done that. But full sex? A wee boy's willy?! AHHH yuck. It's every pedophiles fantasy. :yuck:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can see both sides of this arguement. My half sisters are around that age and I would be mortified if I found out they'd had sex. What I dont understand is why, I mean it was only 100 or so years ago that kids that ages were expected to be married and have their first child on the way at around 14.

    I lost it at 15 and although I regret it slightly if I could go back in time I would probably still do it. Reason I regret it was becuase I did it to shut him up. I could have made him wait alot longer, I know now that he would have waited for me. He just went on abit when he had an idea in is head.

    I reconmend you do wait a bit, get to know each others bodies, explore and wot not.
    Though I have to agree with 1983, as tackfully as she put it, he is not going to be very developed down there so condoms might not even fit him.....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Compared to some people I know who are over 16 but "don't use a condom because it feels better" and who sleep with several different people in the space of the average month, I don't really see much wrong with this particular situation. Perhaps its just me..! :nervous:

    You make some valid points in your post, but the fact remains that the two people involved here are very young. They should be enjoying being young, and not moving into the world of sex and all its complications.

    I can say because I am older that the time when you are young and have no worries is a time to be cherished, and that it would be a foolish thing to do to leave that behind so early.

    Also, you talk about maturity, but you only have to look at some of the language and the emoticons that are in this girl's post that started the thread to see that it's *not* a particularly mature outlook, it's one full of an amount of fear covered up by nervousness. I personally don't think that that is the frame of mind that you should be in when considering sex.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mist wrote:
    Also, you talk about maturity, but you only have to look at some of the language and the emoticons that are in this girl's post that started the thread to see that it's *not* a particularly mature outlook, it's one full of an amount of fear covered up by nervousness. I personally don't think that that is the frame of mind that you should be in when considering sex.

    Do you think, that isn't the impression I got at all from her posts but I agree with you that you should have sex because you want to and feel comfortable with doing it. I guess it is difficult to tell when you're on the net but I just got the impression from her that she was quite comfortable with it all.

    I understand what you say about being young is a time to be cherished, but to be honest I think for most young people these days childhood is being left behind by the age of about 12, I know the friends of my ten year old sister already talk about who wants to shag who and who can't get over their break up with who, and that definitely *is* wrong.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i have to agree with mist...there does seem to be alot of uncertainty and nervousness underlying in the girls posts.
    at the end of the day though if a mind is already made up all you can do is offer advice
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    God, can you just give me a break? All I did was ask for some advice. There's no need to shout at me. I dont even know why I bothered to ask on here now.. its really upset me the way you've spoken to me on here (although I'm not saying everyone, some people have given me good advice in a kind way). I found this website, and I had read through some other posts, and all you of sounded really friendly and kind, but I guess with some of you you're just bitter. "A peodophiles dream"? Maybe some of you should think before you post, instead of throwing insults at me. I'm not some immature 14 year old you know, I deserve some respect to actually attempt to ask for some advice, other than just going straight to it without any information on contraception or anything. So if you are going to insult me some more, I just wont bother coming on here anymore.

    And thankyou to the people that were actually nice to me on this board, you all gave me some great advice!

    Sarah xxx
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As far as I know, you haven't been as insulted as you could have been, or even at all, and you got exactly the advice you needed to hear. As for 'not being some immature 14 year old" you post belies that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fiend_85 wrote:
    As far as I know, you haven't been as insulted as you could have been, or even at all, and you got exactly the advice you needed to hear. As for 'not being some immature 14 year old" you post belies that.
    Well surely you must get my point somehow. I expected some friendly advice on here, which I did get, but I also got a lot of quite hurtful posts. I mean what is the point of being like that? I thought this was to advise.
    And Im not being immature, I was only saying what I thought. I was trying to actually be mature. Maybe I just shouldnt bother trying to explain my reasons of being upset.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :rolleyes: Let me sum up the advice

    You're 14, don't have sex with him.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    See! Thats all I wanted, lol. Thanks.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Smarah wrote:
    Well surely you must get my point somehow. I expected some friendly advice on here, which I did get, but I also got a lot of quite hurtful posts. I mean what is the point of being like that? I thought this was to advise.
    And Im not being immature, I was only saying what I thought. I was trying to actually be mature. Maybe I just shouldnt bother trying to explain my reasons of being upset.

    You got no hurtful posts that I can see. The people in this thread are saying what they think, and, like it or not, some people are going to disagree with people as young as you and your boyfriend having sex.

    Going off the deep end and throwing a strop about a few random comments will only serve to reinforce people's ideas that there's no way that you are emotionally ready for sex.

    Someone may have used the phrase "A peodophile's dream", but that isn't actually insulting you, it's telling things like it is.

    here's the question that you actually put at the start of the thread
    What I'm most troubled about is if I should tell my best friend. Shes really really argumentitive on sex, she always says, "If anyone has sex under 16, they're a slag!" which although I do get her point, I find it unfair. I really need to talk to someone about it, and I want it to be her. Should I talk to her about it?

    (btw please dont talk about our ages, I know what I'm getting into, lol )

    So, should you talk to your friend about it? Probably, but if your reaction will be like it has been to the people here when she reproaches you, I shouldn't bother.

    She will bring up your age, as will other people, because it is a factor, like it or not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the thing is , there are alot of adults(over 18) who post on these boards , whether you feel ready in yourself is something only you can decide yourself, however you need to understand if u are asking for advice from adults it would be highly irresponsible for us not to mention your age- whether you want us to or not.
    u asked for advice - we have a responsibility to make sure we tell you the truth, even if its not what you want to hear.

    no-one is shouting at you, no-one used capitals. most people are just trying to help u.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This whole 16 year old thing really bugs me.

    It has become socially 'correct' to have sex at 16 or older more as time has gone on, but our bodies let us do it earlier then this. We want to do it, and our 'equipment' is ready for it yet the law says we must wait until we are 16.

    What it really is, is the law says you must be 16 to have sex because this is when it was thought the couple were responsible enough to have a child.

    But how many of us have sex for fun compared to the amount that have sex for children??

    Have a think about that for a bit...

    "If there's grass on the wicket, time to play cricket!" HOWEVER... you are 14, he is 13. a couple of years ago and your both 10!! Wait a year or something. to me two 15 year old kids isn't wrong, but as yound as 13 and 14 is a bit young to be honest. Wait a bit - it's much better after a long wait, trust me ;)
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