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Some help please :(
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I've just been to the jobcentre for an interview with them regarding my job search, i told them the great news that i have got myself a job. Then it all went downhill from their.
I explained the situation with the guy that i've been told i have to wait for 6 weeks before i get my first wage. In this period of time i will have no money coming in whatsoever and that i need help. He's basically told me im not entitled to any benefits at all. This puts me in a very difficult place because i cant affoed new work clothes/shoes, i cant afford travel to work. which in turn is going to jepordise a job i havent even started yet.
My only option is to contact the tax office and see if they will give me my tax rebate of whatever it is before i get my first wage but even thats probably not going to help!
I'm shocked that their is no support for me in this position at all. It makes makes my great news pale in comparison
Someone tell me their something i can do from this point because if i cant get money, i may well have to give up something i really want/need
I'm really stuck right now. I hope someone might be able to help. Mods is their any info you can perhaps give me ?
Thank you
Rich
ETA: i plan on talking to my new employer at my induction about this to see what they might be able to do. Or at least to make them aware
Oh and how do i actually go about claiming a tax rebate. Thanks
I explained the situation with the guy that i've been told i have to wait for 6 weeks before i get my first wage. In this period of time i will have no money coming in whatsoever and that i need help. He's basically told me im not entitled to any benefits at all. This puts me in a very difficult place because i cant affoed new work clothes/shoes, i cant afford travel to work. which in turn is going to jepordise a job i havent even started yet.
My only option is to contact the tax office and see if they will give me my tax rebate of whatever it is before i get my first wage but even thats probably not going to help!
I'm shocked that their is no support for me in this position at all. It makes makes my great news pale in comparison
Someone tell me their something i can do from this point because if i cant get money, i may well have to give up something i really want/need
I'm really stuck right now. I hope someone might be able to help. Mods is their any info you can perhaps give me ?
Thank you
Rich
ETA: i plan on talking to my new employer at my induction about this to see what they might be able to do. Or at least to make them aware
Oh and how do i actually go about claiming a tax rebate. Thanks
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do they not provide a uniform?
i know sometimes they take a few days/weeks to arrive but i'm sure till then some black trousers and a white shirt (or something) will do until then? and surely you have those items in your wardrobe?
try not to worry, i'm sure people take on people that were previously out of employment frequently so they'll understand the lack of £.
crap, isn't it?
you would think that people who make the effort to find work would be rewarded. but no.
i'd have a chat to your employer. some are really understanding and will give you an advance on your wages. even if it's only a wee bit, it's better than nothing.
Did you give your P45 to the jobcentre when you signed on? In theory you should get any in year repayment due for 04/05 when you sign off. You then need to hand the P45 you get from the Jobcentre to your next employer to keep your tax code up to date. Jobseekers is a taxable benefit, even though you don't get enough benefit weekly to pay tax, it all counts towards your taxable income.
If you didn't give a P45 to the jobcentre, you will need to contact your tax office when you start your new job so they can get your record up to date, they will want details of your jobseekers allowance and any other previous employments in the 04/05 tax year. Any repayment due will be made via your pay packet (again no help to you right now) Your new employer will also want you to complete a P46.
You would have been able to claim an unemployment repayment if you had not signed on, but as you have have a taxable income (jobseekers) there is nothing that can be done.
Sorry dude
He did however tell me i myself could contact the tax office and see if i can claim my tax back before then.
ETA: the girl i spoke to who offered me the job didnt ask me me to bring in my P45 as it goes but i'll take it in myself.
You will only get a tax repayment from the Jobcentre if they know your previous pay and tax details (from your P45), and as you didn't give them a P45 I would go on the theory that they don't know the details in order to be able to repay any tax, so please don't get your hopes up! I don't mean to be negative but I would hate to give you false hope.
I assuming the tax you want to get repaid has been paid in 2004/2005, and unless you qualify under a few circumstances (death being one of them), any in year tax is repaid via your employer.
I would def hand your P45 from the jobcentre into your new employer, that will keep your tax code up to date.
I was thinking about it and im not going to do anything regarding my tax rebate i'll just wait till i hand in my jsa book at the jobcentre and let them deal with it.
Also yeah the tax is from 04/05 tax year.
When they first start I mean.
It depends. Technically, if a new employer receives a P45 part 3 (that is less than 10 weeks old) from their new employee, they should take into account the previous pay and tax and also use tax code from it. If the new employee hasn't got a P45 they should complete a P46, and if they say it is their only or main job the employer should use the code 474L X (which doesn't take into account any previous pay, tax or the code they were on before, so no repayment would be generated) the tax office then processes the P46 and issues the employer with the previous pay and tax and the proper code.
However, a lot of employers (especially smaller ones) seem to apply an emergency tax code as a fail safe, even if they have the P45 pt 3, until they have received the official code and details from the tax office.
Well that isn't entirely true.
If you earn less than £36 a week you can get JSA topped up to the maximum.
You can apply for hardship loans, and you can apply for money to help you get back to work. But this is like trying to draw blood from a stone.
Can your parents not help you? Can your bank not help you?
from what i understood by that, he will be earning. he just won't get a sniff of the money for 6 weeks.
it happens quite a lot, especially if you start towards the end of the month, you won't actually get paid until the end of the second month. it's a reet pain in the arse, cause you're employed, and you're earning, so you're not entitled to much.
I got a loan of a small amount from my dad. I found out that im in the middle of a pay period with Morrisons so i will get two weeks pay on the 5th Feb.
I was told i could apply for uhm, i forget the name of the loan but i'd rather not do that, which is why i chose to take up my dads offer instead. Easier to pay back etc.
I'll agree with that like.
Bunch of useless fuckers IMO!
Its like if i had waited another 2 months id have been eligble for finalcial help, so what does that say to anyone unemployed who gets offered a job but is short for cash.. It says dont fucking bother taking the job :yes:
If you don't go on JSA and get off your arse then obviously you don't care that much.
Going on JSA does generally mean that you have to get off your arse, at least a little bit. And I hardly call surving on £40 a week "rewarding laziness".
It's hard going into work when you don't have much money, but that's life. It's shit. It's not that hard: after all, you were OFFERED a loan but you chose not to accept it. They're not going to give you free money just because you've managed to get a job at Morrisons.
I personally was not "offered" a loan. i was only told it might be an option. I'm sorry but i disagree i believe that they should be helping people who actually get off their arse to find work who then find that they cant support themselves, and in other cases possibly a family for a number of weeks. Their should be some kind of finacial help available which maybe doesnt even have to be a "loan" or whatever, but as you say thats life and their current system works for then so they wont change it
Sorry, buit there are plenty of ways in which help is offered. There's hardship loans if pay packets are going to be delayed, there's WFTC for people in low-paid employment, etc etc. Even in the crappiest job you'll be earning significantlyu more than £40 a week, that is enough incentive I would say.
Though mostly I just get irritated by everyone always labelling anyone who finds it hard to find work through no fault of their own as "lazy" or "spongers". It was more directed at SG's mindless ranting than anything else.