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of course there's other ways but not true respect, children are very smart believe it or not, if a teacher can't hit them, they will play on that, they know they have a certain control over teachers and teachers know they'll only be able to go so far, creates an uneasy atomosphere, too forces pulling in two opposite directions, whereas if a teacher can hit a child, the child will know rightly to behave or else, i think it also teaches children how to act in life generally, definately gives them manners, did to me anyway
Just TRY introducing it...you think a kid who is ready to stab another kid over the silliest of incidents is gonna think twice about doing it to a teacher who cains them
Kids dont bloody turn up for detention, what makes you think they'll turn up for a bloody caining?
Bring that in and watch assaults on teachers go through the roof.
If it was bought in i dont think many teachers would agree to do it...
cane never did me no harm. sure it hurt but that goes, tell you what though by the time you got home ud think twice before making the same mistake.
You cant have been cained that much throughout your schooling, as this was banned in state schools in 1987, so i wonder how much of an effect this had on your during your teenage school years
And while we are on the subject, it didnt stop your drug use did it? So it didnt wouldnt have made you 'think twice' about all cainable offences would it?
Would you have stopped smoking grass because of the cain? i would be extremely surprised if this was the case.
God your scraping the barrel there aint ya. Your forgetting teenagers tend to rebel and do what THEY wanna do, thats not to insult teenagers here but Ive been there (be it a long time ago), but I thought I could do what the hell I wanted to do when I wanted to do it......WRONG.
After the caning, I learned to do what was asked of me.
the embarrasment of getting called to the year heads office. The waiting was horrible and everyone watching you knowing you were gonna get the cain.
Caning a child encourages the view that violence can be used to get what they want.
Just seems a bit backward, really.
Rubbish. Treating kids as human beings, showing them love but giving them firm boundaries gains much more respect than beating them.
Yeah, 'cos the world was so much better 100 years ago wasn't it?
:rolleyes:
A very simplistic view.
It always seems to end up with "if only the authorities were allowed to inflict more physical pain, the world would be a better place"..........
:yeees:
Would you agree or disagree that there is a lot more violence in schools and on the street compared with say 20 years ago ? If you were a head teacher of a school how would you combat bullying or kids trying to do what they want to do and constantly break the rules ?
You see yes I was caned and now I look back and know I deserved it. It made me THINK twice about being an obnoxious teenager (which I was at that time). A quick sharp shock never harmed anyone.
Oh before you say caning mkes people violent themselves I dont beat my child......cos I know thats the next thing you lot will try to push this way.
Were you ever caned ?
Also im talking secondary school here, not primary school. So really when you take that into account we aint talking some poor defensless little child.
So does electrocuting the genitals.....
I agree with you... but only in extreme cases. We start off moderate, but if that didn't work, hit them a bit with a nice cane. If they still are doing some serious crap (like dealing to other students) then strap em to a table, attatch some electrodes to either bollock, and run some high current high voltage electricity through them.
I bet you, he wont do it again (assuming he doesn't become depressed, lose the will to live and just go on a killing spree).
In the case of women, attatch electrodes to the sides of the sensitive areas.
It's shit what happened, pure misfortune, but i'm not going to go on a rant about bullying when bullying appears to have nothing to do with the incident.
I heard different on my local news, so I can only go by what I heard. I havent heard anything else since though.
can u explain? in my eyes someone throwing a punch at someone else is a form of bullying, any physical, mental or emotional distress caused to another person is normally considered to be bullying.
Now that is foolish. It's not bullying if you just have a fight with someone.
Don't be so silly. By that logic, if i swung a punch at Mike Tyson, i'd be bullying him...
Bullying is picking on the weak.
sorry but i still call this incident bullying, i was refering to this incident not as a general rule.
I agree with that, but you try persuading others here. If you suceed in getting someone to agree with ya then I will run down my local high street starkers
(not a bonny sight may i add)
But where did you hear that's what happened...the press said there was a fight involving a handfull of people...one boy died...haven't seen any report which said he was attacked on his own by a group.
It could be the case the boy who died provoked the fight, there's no point in speculating when you dont know the facts.
can i watch?
he only hit his head by dodging punch.
Why the obsession with viewing schoolyard confrontations as bullying by default? Talk about jumping on bandwagons.
In my experience, violent fights are not bullying, there's a logic behind that which you obviously can't see.