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Vote Labour! Or not...

Imagine that there was a General Election next week. Who would you vote for? Personally, I don't know. We have a government which has achieved nothing in its second term other than taking Britain into an illegal war on a false prospectus. We have an opposition that can't be bothered with opposing the government. We have nonsense parties like UKIP on the wings. So, who'd you go for? I don't know what way I'd vote, if I'd do so at all...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well you could look at it in two ways:

    If you decide that you're going to vote for the party that represents your views best, then you just do so even if the party in question hasn't got a chance in hell. For instance, left wingers vote for the SWP, Respect or any other such party. Those concerned with the environment can vote Green; those disenchanted with the Tories can vote UKIP or others... and so on...

    Labour will still get in but at least you will have voted with your conscience.

    If however you want to vote tactically and affect the outcome of the election as much as possible, then IMO the Lib Dems are the natural choice. Unless things change radically with the Tories, they will never get enough votes to beat Labour- people just don't trust or like them. But if as many disenchanted Labour voters as possible voted for the Lib Dems, Labour might lose so many seats that they might be forced to enter a coalition with the Lib Dems to be able to govern.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    Labour will still get in but at least you will have voted with your conscience.
    So Aladdin, how would you vote, I wonder?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I would be voting Liberal Democrat, even though I don't think it will make a difference.

    If I vote in my home constituency the Conservative MP David Liddington has an 11,0000 majority. If you put a chimp in a Tory suit people would vote for it :|

    In my uni constituency, Labour Blairite MP, Ben Bradshaw has a majority of 8000. Somehow Im not sure if he will be unseated.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    im next to euston station for uni, which is tory, and my hometown has stephen timms the frankenstein lookalike and government minister so its a guranteed seat for labour
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
    my hometown has stephen timms the frankenstein lookalike and government minister so its a guranteed seat for labour.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by stargalaxy
    So Aladdin, how would you vote, I wonder?
    If I could vote in the General Election... I could not bring myself to vote for Labour. Not with that war criminal in charge.

    And it's a shame because I think domestically they have done well in most areas (though the Home Secretary and his Orwellians plans are pissing me off quite a bit).

    So to be honest I'd be torn whether to vote for a minority party (SWP, Respect or other) or tactically for the Lib Dems. Probably the former, though I must say I find myself agreeing with the Lib Dems in many a policy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    If I could vote in the General Election... I could not bring myself to vote for Labour. Not with that war criminal in charge.

    And it's a shame because I think domestically they have done well in most areas (though the Home Secretary and his Orwellians plans are pissing me off quite a bit).

    So to be honest I'd be torn whether to vote for a minority party (SWP, Respect or other) or tactically for the Lib Dems. Probably the former, though I must say I find myself agreeing with the Lib Dems in many a policy.

    thats the thing, labour have done a good job with the economy and school and hospitals and jobs etc

    its just aspects like their willing to do anything for america, and their going towards authoritarian policies since theres not too many reforms that can be done with servies, its this which put me off

    im hoping for a reduced majority in parliament so they have to co-ilise with lib dems
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    labour have done amazing things!
    they achieved a lot.
    they are the best government for everyone in my lifetime.
    i will vote labour ...but only if tony is removed. purely because of his support for bush and this phoney war.
    if they don't remove him ...then i won't vote.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Renzo
    I would be voting Liberal Democrat, even though I don't think it will make a difference.

    If I vote in my home constituency the Conservative MP David Liddington has an 11,0000 majority. If you put a chimp in a Tory suit people would vote for it :|

    In my uni constituency, Labour Blairite MP, Ben Bradshaw has a majority of 8000. Somehow Im not sure if he will be unseated.

    Liddington himself is actually a rather decent chap, I don't know about his politics though. he's not a very influential govt player tho, is he! The only way to change anything in Aylesbury is to vote Lib Dem, labour have no power watsoever, so if you don't want tories, libdems are the only thing that can topple it.


    by the way, decrease a zero..im sure we dont ahve that many people in our constituency!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by queenmab_roo
    Liddington himself is actually a rather decent chap, I don't know about his politics though. he's not a very influential govt player tho, is he! The only way to change anything in Aylesbury is to vote Lib Dem, labour have no power watsoever, so if you don't want tories, libdems are the only thing that can topple it.


    by the way, decrease a zero..im sure we dont ahve that many people in our constituency!
    Look at what can be done!

    From a 13,000 majority in 1992, to 269 in 2001. The local boy done good. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by queenmab_roo
    Liddington himself is actually a rather decent chap, I don't know about his politics though. he's not a very influential govt player tho, is he! The only way to change anything in Aylesbury is to vote Lib Dem, labour have no power watsoever, so if you don't want tories, libdems are the only thing that can topple it.


    by the way, decrease a zero..im sure we dont ahve that many people in our constituency!

    Definatly not. I like Mr Liddington, he's a good guy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Which is why this country is going down the toilet.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Which is why this country is going down the toilet.

    Any basis for that statement?

    The Lib Dem's fit my view point best, Respect are laughable and their economic policies a bad joke.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Im never voting Labour whilst Tonys in charge, Id prefer Gordon, I hope they loose or its a hung parliment.

    And as for "Respect" Id never vore for them I hate George Galloway he is a pure cunt, I hate him and he makes my skin crawl.
    If I thought he could actually win and get to power Id be very scared.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Iknowyourmum
    I hate George Galloway, he is a pure c**t, I hate him and he makes my skin crawl. If I thought he could actually win and get to power, I'd be very scared.
    I think you can sleep easy tonight, then.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by bongbudda
    Any basis for that statement?

    The Lib Dem's fit my view point best, Respect are laughable and their economic policies a bad joke.

    It was in reference to what J said, people think it's boring, so people don't vote, so nothing changes for the better.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Look at what can be done!

    From a 13,000 majority in 1992, to 269 in 2001. The local boy done good. :)

    my mistake, i didn't think we were that big a consituency- but then i am thinking of jus the town and not the whole area!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    green.

    they don't necessarily need to get in power... if just they had a little bit bigger voice and so maybe could influence things a bit more?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lukesh no offence but...
    i have grown to be fond of New Labour

    that is good reason why i am not voting for labour!!!

    If tory boy is getting fond of new labour then it means us socialists have to look to vote for something else :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by queenmab_roo
    my mistake, i didn't think we were that big a consituency- but then i am thinking of jus the town and not the whole area!
    That was Orpington, but the point was that there is no such thing as a safe seat - big majorities can be turned around (it doesn't help that John Horam has switched allegiances twice :lol: ). In an average constituency of 75000 voters, 60% of whom vote, 13000 is a big majority. Not sure what your majority in Ayslebury is but it is not inevitable. ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tory.
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