Britain violates the rights of children says UN

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The article

Is this a fair accusation?
If so will anything be done?

Personally i think that the amount some 16 year olds get paid is disgusting and the withdrawl of rights for child asylum seekers is....disturbing.

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Certainly Feltam should be torn down, its consistantly one of the worst prisons in the whole system and its for kids.

However I think throwing in the bit about kids wages is a little silly, seems an odd little thing to add. We dont really have a massive child labour problem.

The issues of child detention and asylum seekers are much more important.

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Re: Britain violates the rights of children says UN

from the article:

a discriminatory system that makes it three times more likely that young black people will be in prison than at university.

"My committee recommended in 2002 that detention should only be used as a last resort, yet the UK still locks up more children than most other industrialised countries. Why is this tolerated?"

Control and restraint was used 11,593 times on children aged 12-14 in secure training centres in the past four years.

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Why in the world would the UK care what the UN thinks? There is proof of record-breaking fraud in the oil-for-food program totaling over 22 billion dollars. How many children in Iraq did that hurt...or do children not count when they are Muslim? I'm against the war...but where were the protests against Saddam and Sons when they were raping little girls or filming the girls' boyfriends in cages with lions as they were eaten...to force the girls to screw them? Where was the moral outrage in Europe in particular?

The UN may lose almost a quarter of its funding soon. Since the investigatin into this fraud is being blocked by people and countries that benefited from the theaft, including France, the US Congress is voting to cut them off. If there are social welfare problems with children in the UK, the UN is the UK has the moral high ground to solve it...not the corrupt UN.

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Originally posted by bluestatesman
Why in the world would the UK care what the UN thinks? There is proof of record-breaking fraud in the oil-for-food program totaling over 22 billion dollars. How many children in Iraq did that hurt...or do children not count when they are Muslim? I'm against the war...but where were the protests against Saddam and Sons when they were raping little girls or filming the girls' boyfriends in cages with lions as they were eaten...to force the girls to screw them? Where was the moral outrage in Europe in particular?

And how many "anti-Saddam" marches did you go on?

There were certainly demos against the sanctions, cos it was obvious they were bad for Iraqis and made Saddam more powerful.......



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Of course, having said that, blue, the argument of the pro-war camp falls apart utterly since by that very standard, if the UN is so irrelevant then why should Saddam have ever needed to comply with its demands or accepted the invasive scrutiny of its military industrial complex (since Washington would certainly never allow for third country inspections of OUR sensitive military projects or sites (and we HAVE substantial stockpiles of WMDs as well as countless renewed nuclear projects)?

One cannot justify a war of clear aggression against another sovereign nation upon one party's failure to comply with UN resolutions whilst concurrently subscribing to the notion that longstanding UN principles and Congressionally-accepted and ratified precepts and norms of international law and trans-national conflict resolution can be dismissed simply because the plaintiff nation has the military might to do so.

Moreover, whilst you are pointing the finger at nations complicit in yet another further sensationalised scandal, you would do well to turn your gaze first and foremost to the secrecy-shrouded offices of our dear VP, who whilst CEO of Haliburton, used dummy front companies in Iraq to avail himself, his company and our nation of a sizeable chunk of that very extortion.

The leaders of the "free world" are quite unsurprisingly the leaders of the criminal world, albeit on a scale only dreamed of by the sort of organised crime figures one would find operating in NJ.