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Loans and grants - getting less than you expected

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    no, we didn't. we couldn't afford to. unless you count walking to the nearest pub to have a couple of lemonades and steal the sachets of ketchup.

    That's countable. Did you get vinegar, too?

    Anyway, you weren't being holier-than-though ;)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by NaCN
    That's countable. Did you get vinegar, too?

    of course. and salt. and one day we went to a posh pub and got a whole load of tartare sauce :)

    i say posh. what i really mean is that all the glass was intact.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by girl with sharp teeth
    The thing is though, that as much as people might say 'well we worked to support ourselves rather than let our parents pay' it's very hard to do well at your studies if you don't have the time to spend at them. Rainbow Brite's niece for example, would have to work a lot more hours than the maximum ten recommended in order to make ends meet. It just doesn't work in real life.

    ten hours a week in term time. on £5 an hour, that's still an extra £50 a week.

    then you have 4 months off in summer (can easily earn £2000) and a month off for christmas and easter (£500 each).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    ten hours a week in term time. on £5 an hour, that's still an extra £50 a week.

    And if you can find a company that will have you for just ten hours then I will eat my hat.

    Tesco, that student haven, started at 20.

    then you have 4 months off in summer (can easily earn £2000) and a month off for christmas and easter (£500 each).

    If, agfain, you can find someone who will have you.

    And assuming you don't have university commitments.

    And assuming that you don't want a life.

    The simple fact is that tuition fees are a fucking disgrace. Loans I could accept if a) they weren't means tested, b) they weren't means tested against your parents and not yourself and c) it was enough to live on.

    I think I've already said how the accomodation bill for Durham Univerrsity is now higher than the maximum loan. Want to work that one out for me?

    Anyone who can sit there and defend the current system has lost all respect they had from me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    And if you can find a company that will have you for just ten hours then I will eat my hat.

    i did. everyone i know did. most of them worked more than that, but their contracts were for 7 hours, 10 hours, 12 hours. it might have taken months of looking, but if it takes months, it takes months.

    Anyone who can sit there and defend the current system has lost all respect they had from me.

    no one's defending it. all i'm saying is that yeah, it's grossly unfair and it's hard, but it's the same way for everyone. and people manage.

    you have a choice to go into higher education. and if you choose to do it, you have to accept that at the moment it's really fucking expensive and you'll be on 8p noodles 5 nights a week.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm employed for 12 hours a week? It works out fine for me, and I sometimes get overtime too.

    As for the comment about earning £2K over the summer but "not if you want to have a life" - who exactly do you think is gonna pay your way through Uni?! My parents pay for the basics and I'm lucky, but it would never cross my mind NOT to work during the vacations. I earn about £500 every Christmas and Easter and about £2100 every summer including the summer after my A Levels. Welcome to the real world: imagine, after Uni you'll have to work 37 hours a week and only get 4 weeks holiday a year :eek:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by girl with sharp teeth
    Now this is interesting. Do people have much of a choice any more when £13,000 a year dogsbody jobs are asking for graduates? Can you still work your way up to a good position even if you start at the bottom without a degree?

    of course you can. 95% of the jobs i applied for as a graduate specified that you should be educated to A level standard or equivalent. very few asked for a degree, unless they were specific graduate training programs, or teaching posts.

    my brother left school after A levels. he’s only 2 years older than me, he’s been working since he was 18, and the bonus he got last year was the same as what I would earn in 2 years doing my graduate-specific job.

    A degree means nothing these days unless you can also work your ass off and you are highly employable. And if you can work your ass off and you are highly employable, degree or no, you will go far.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rainbow Brite your post is interesting.

    Your niece - what course is she doing?

    Believe me if it's any arts course and in the first year academic requirements will be dossy/lenient to medium, so don't listen to what the lecturers say about not working more than 10hrs a week? What this is poppcycock I did a double honours degree of French and Spanish and Bradford Uni and in the first year worked about 16 hrs a week in Mc D's to help myself out also in my final year worked a s a foreign languages assistant in local schools. You get at least £12 an hour and worked in three schools for about an hour each. okay so only 36 squid a week, but every bit helps and it all adds up. They are called study support network schemes and if she is doing a subject like maths, science or language - the schools will be crying out for her skills, especially when she'd more advanced into her specialism.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    shes doing Psychology. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    most of them worked more than that

    And that is really the crux of it.

    maybe it's just a Durham/North East thing. I worked at Tesco for 18 hours a week, and that was the shortest contract they had.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I work at gala bingo and wwe get a lot of students working there. Their minimum is two shifts a week. A shift is about 4 and a half hours.
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