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How the super-rich cheat up to £85bn on dodged taxes
BillieTheBot
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Read this and weep (or explode with rage)
Those complaining about the prospect of raising taxes for those earning 100K or above- or indeed of high taxes at all- please take note: if these mega-rich, mega-selfish greedy bastards paid the taxes they should, there would not be need to raise taxes at all- in fact you could even lower them for many- and the country would have infinitely better services, railways, schools and hospitals.
Scum of the universe :mad:
Those complaining about the prospect of raising taxes for those earning 100K or above- or indeed of high taxes at all- please take note: if these mega-rich, mega-selfish greedy bastards paid the taxes they should, there would not be need to raise taxes at all- in fact you could even lower them for many- and the country would have infinitely better services, railways, schools and hospitals.
Scum of the universe :mad:
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Yes there are a lot of high earners who avoid tax. But then so do a lot of people.
because of course, throwing money at the problem is the way to fix it.
Of course it is, but the very point it is making is what prevents it from being otherwise. They do not have access to the correct information. Because the Govt/Inland Revenue aren't interested in collecting this information.
Could you imagine the public outcry if this information proved what the article is claiming - as I am sure it would.
It isn't beyond the realms of common sense to work out that those who can afford tax accountants will be finding a way to avoid paying tax. Hell I know that the NHS uses these people to avoid paying VAT whenever possible - basically if an accountant charges £30k then he must save at least that or he wouldn't get paid.
It is a matter of record that many hige earning figures live in tax exile, whilst earning fortunes from their businesses in this country, raking in the case from people who actually tax tax in the UK. The article even gives examples, and I could add several rock stars to the list.
On a separate thought, just imagine what the NHS could achieve if the lower figure quoted was made available to us...?
You're right, throwing moey isn't always the right answer. BUt it would be nice to have that option. Certainly to pump-prime some initiatives.
Example, I would like to offer funding to voluntary services/charities to support people with Chronic Diseases, that way we could prevent some of the millions of hospitals admissions every year.
If I invest this year, I might not see such a reduction for two year, yet I also have to pay for the beds we use this year. And I am not allowed to overspend at any time.
Simple maths will tell you that you cannot always do both...
this is what i have said so many times ...instead of attacking the people at the bottom of the pile for screwing a few quid ...we should start at the top.
all you moaners who say people on benefits are scamming a billion quid a year ...all the times i've said so what ...shouldn't you be more concerned about those at the top who are seriously srewing the system ...seriously robbing you of your hard paid taxes ...but no ...it's always those at the bottom who get the kicking.
A few months ago we put a ticket on a car that was blocking the road. It was some sort of new merc or jag or something
I hung around to explain why we did it and the woman accepted it, in her rather hoity toity accent.
20 minutes later her arsehole of a brother rang up demanding that the ticket was illegal because of some sort of technicality to do with where the lines were.
The sergeant told him to go bollocks...lol.
I like my job, because as well as helping people I sometimes get to take people down a peg or 2.
Now all we need is a colour-blind police force and we're home and dry!
Why should the rich pay tax? They don't use the NHS, they don't use the education system, they pay for the roads in other taxes, they pay a lot of tax on consumer durables, why the hell should they pay for something that they don't need, don't want and don't use?
Because they have more money? Sorry, that argument doesn't wash.
The rich are prefectly entitled to do what they want with their own money, they aren't doing anything illegal, and they aren't doing anything immoral. Why should they prop up something which they don't use?
unless youd like a poll tax
and people avoiding tax who dont even need to deserve to be shot, earning an extra few quid here or there, is okay if you can get away with it, but doing it to thousands of pounds, tight gits
not a good argument. to simplistic.
WE ...are building and running a society for all hopefully ...or as best as we can muster.
the more you manage to make and enjoy in this society the more you should BE WILLING to put back into the very machine that is giving you such comfort.
or there is an alternative ...which realy doesn't bare thinking about.
Yes it does. Because redistribution of wealth helps create a fair and equitable society.
Spoken like a true socialist. You're not planning the revolution already are you?
Do you think we should redistribute wealth to people who do fuck all?
I bet youd do it at the barrel of a gun wouldnt you?
Send round the Red Guards and whatnot.
being wealthy amidst poverty and desperation cannot be fulfilling or even very safe.
Do you seriously think for one minute that tax redistibutes wealth? Seriously?
All taxation does is fund an over-bloated bureaucracy, illegal wars and greedy politicians. Why should people have to pay for that, what justification is there for it?
And as for the other aspect fo "redistribution", all that does is steal from the hard-working to give to the lazy and stupid.
The rich create employment for the poor, so that the poor can raise themselves up. The rich buy more consumer durables, and pay high tax rates for the privilege.
schools collapsing ...hospitals with rain pouring in ...mass youth unemployment ...mass adult unemployment ...no books in schools ...less coppers more crime more drugs more homlesness more despair but ...the tories busy raiding the family silver ...snatching everything for a couple of quid in the name of privatisation ...as an example the railways ...which is privatised but costs the taxpayer billions each year.
by the wy i don't use trains ...i wouldn't mind my taxes helping to pay for them though ...but to pay for the shareholders 4x4's takes the biscuit.
The reality is only better now because of privatisation, through PFI. Without PFI the Government wouldn't have the money to build all the new schools and hospitals, and, whilst it costs more in the long term, it doesn't count as debt, it doesn't create debt, and it doesn't cost money to start with.
Unemployment was high in the late 1980s/early 1990s because of market conditions. It's dropped because of New Labour's economic control.
having a fair amount of tax does lead to a fairER standard of living for everyone
complete communism cant work cause people wanna own stuff though, who said that!?
tax aint charity.
tax is how we build for each other ...hopefully.
Do they use an educated workforce, the Police and judicial system, the fire brigade, the ambulance service, roads and motorways? Are their businesses assisted by the DTI, Export Credit Guarantees? Do they go to university, enjoy the Arts or even the security given by the Armed Forces?
If not, then I agree with everything you said.
Like bosses and the Royal Family?
Yep, you'd be first against the wall, muthafucka
It helps pay for the NHS, and the welfare state. But yes, they are over-bloated bureaucries, especially the DSS. But it's a good idea in principle.
Aaaahhh, trickle down economics. Proven to be a load of neo-liberalist shite.