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The following is copied and pasted from www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk (done this way because they are always changing the links).
Desperate patient uses pliers to remove teeth
A DESPERATE patient who found it impossible to register with an NHS dentist resorted to removing his own teeth with a pair of rusty pliers.
George Daulat, 47, was suffering severe toothache but could not find anyone to treat him in a town with a chronic shortage of cover.
Earlier this year, hundreds of people queued in Scarborough, North Yorkshire, in the rush to register at a practice.
Mr Daulat, of Eastborough, Scarborough, used half a litre of vodka as an anaesthetic.
Since then, infection has set in, causing persistent pain.
Mr Daulat has now extracted another two.
Mr Daulat said: "People will think I am crazy to have pulled my own teeth out but they weren't living with the pain."
Elizabeth Hirst, 25, a friend of Mr Daulat, has written to Tony Blair after their search for a dentist failed.
She called almost 20 practices in Scarborough, NHS and private, to no avail as her friend's situation worsened.
Scarborough's emergency NHS dentist, Northway Clinic, refused to treat Mr Daulat the day he pulled his tooth out because he didn't contact them early enough.
John Carney, of Northway, Clinic, said: "If he had rung here at 8.30am he would have had an appointment that day, it's as simple as that."
Dire problems with NHS dentist shortages in Scarborough earlier this year forced the Government into taking notice as 3,000 people were left stranded outside the New Queen Street practice after Dutch dentist Aria Van Drie was found to have a criminal conviction.
Since then, the Primary Care Trust for Scarborough, Whitby and Ryedale has been working hard on policies to combat the shortage using Government funding to attract NHS dentists to the area.
* In May, it was reported that Valerie Halsworth, 64, also from the Scarborough area, removed five of her teeth over a five-year period, using pliers. She lost her place at the surgery she had been visiting for more than 30 years when her time between appointments exceeded Government guidelines.
Something has to be done, this is wrong and he shouldnt have had to do what he did. Its alright someone like John Carney coming now saying if he had phoned they would have had an appointment the same day but when you have contacted so many you 'think' there is nobody anywhere who can help.
Desperate patient uses pliers to remove teeth
A DESPERATE patient who found it impossible to register with an NHS dentist resorted to removing his own teeth with a pair of rusty pliers.
George Daulat, 47, was suffering severe toothache but could not find anyone to treat him in a town with a chronic shortage of cover.
Earlier this year, hundreds of people queued in Scarborough, North Yorkshire, in the rush to register at a practice.
Mr Daulat, of Eastborough, Scarborough, used half a litre of vodka as an anaesthetic.
Since then, infection has set in, causing persistent pain.
Mr Daulat has now extracted another two.
Mr Daulat said: "People will think I am crazy to have pulled my own teeth out but they weren't living with the pain."
Elizabeth Hirst, 25, a friend of Mr Daulat, has written to Tony Blair after their search for a dentist failed.
She called almost 20 practices in Scarborough, NHS and private, to no avail as her friend's situation worsened.
Scarborough's emergency NHS dentist, Northway Clinic, refused to treat Mr Daulat the day he pulled his tooth out because he didn't contact them early enough.
John Carney, of Northway, Clinic, said: "If he had rung here at 8.30am he would have had an appointment that day, it's as simple as that."
Dire problems with NHS dentist shortages in Scarborough earlier this year forced the Government into taking notice as 3,000 people were left stranded outside the New Queen Street practice after Dutch dentist Aria Van Drie was found to have a criminal conviction.
Since then, the Primary Care Trust for Scarborough, Whitby and Ryedale has been working hard on policies to combat the shortage using Government funding to attract NHS dentists to the area.
* In May, it was reported that Valerie Halsworth, 64, also from the Scarborough area, removed five of her teeth over a five-year period, using pliers. She lost her place at the surgery she had been visiting for more than 30 years when her time between appointments exceeded Government guidelines.
Something has to be done, this is wrong and he shouldnt have had to do what he did. Its alright someone like John Carney coming now saying if he had phoned they would have had an appointment the same day but when you have contacted so many you 'think' there is nobody anywhere who can help.
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All I know that is in some places it is becoming increasingly harder to see an N.H.S dentist. Waiting times at the hospital are ridiculous to get treatment from a dentist.
im not looking forward to the wait I may have with my Daughter who was told on her last visit to the dentist that she will probably have to wear a brace when she's a bit older. mind we will cross that bridge when we come to it......hopefully by then the waiting times wont be as bad.
The only way is by offering costly incentives at a tine when people are increasingly moaning about the tax burden it would not be politically expedient........
so until they do something people stay with rotten teeth, go without fillings or resort to pulling their own teeth out......yeah thats the best way forward :thumb:
More money needs putting there, the service is not adequate so make it so you can see an NHS dentist in reasonable time.....thats all I ask.
People go where the jobs are. Doesn't matter if it's scarborough or inverness. If there's a job and someone needs it they'll go. The point is that there need to be enough dentists for there to be demand for jobs, and enough funding so that the jobs exist.
Perhaps all dentists should be forced to see a quota of NHS patients.
Yes but as has been alluded to if there simply are not enough dentists, never minding public vs private considerations then this will happen, you cannot make people train as dentists, even if you pay more money etc people might not do it, it cannot be guaranteed.....
If there aren't enough dentists then people should becoem dentists themselves and solve the problem.............:)
The patient didn't have to do what he did, but I agree that more could be done.
Like letting the public know that if they contact their local PCT then the PCT will tell them which practices are taking on patients, or what alternatives are available.
And it is alright for John Carney to say what he did because he's right. Had the patient contacted his clinic then this wouldn't have been an issue. Although, again I would say that I don't thin it's right that the patient had to do all the ringing around because it does lead to the feeling of helplessness...
Just out of interest, there are a huge number of dentists in the country. They have a choice of working for the NHS and getting paid NHS rates, or working privately getting inflated rates. As a specialist service clearly they have a capitive market. Their response is the capitalist one.
I just don't agree with their stance.
Yeah he didnt have to, but I can totally understand why he did what he did. Toothache is worse than labour, toothache is one of the worst types of pain anyone can have.....in my opinion.
So here we have this guy who must have been in agony, he had phoned different places up but couldnt get seen.........so he did the only thing he could that would take this pain away.
Just out of curiosity what would have happened if he had landed at Accident and Emergency ? would they have sorted it out for him ?
I mean £3.75 a week ain't even a pack of fags and is practically a beer and a half... It's a video rental, a bus fare for twelve miles....
Not to say that I'm not sympathetic... But perhaps dental plans could be advertised more.
Nope, because they don't have the skills to help him. Clearly A&E don't have dentists, at most they can offer pain relief.
Usually though, there are emergency dental services available - often located near an A&E.
I thought most hospitals had emergency orthodontics departments???
There is an emergency dental helpline which you can phone if you need emergency dental treatment and they will make you an appointment with the nearest NHS dentist. I had to use it when my crown broke in Cornwall last week.
Apart from that the dentist side of things have been reallt efficient.
i'm told there are emergency services for if you knock a tooth out, or break it, but if it's just pain, no one will help you. if there's no blood, they don't give a shit.
it's not rocket science is it.
all this university bollox for what ...a mouthful of teeth and some medical and anasthesia knowledge ...