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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
ok ppl 4 a while now i have been cutting myself and i dont no how 2 stop ne advice? <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="confused.gif" border="0">

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You need to get some counselling.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    *sighs*, well do you wanna expand on that? ie how long, how often, any reason, any other relevant information? If you don't tell us a lot we can't help you.

    Sorry about my lack of sympathy at this very moment in time, I do sympathise, I really do, but considering my current situation, the feelings regarding myself, the few people that I love, and the issue of cutting itself I find it a little hard to express emotion.

    Welcome to thesite.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorry to hear it man. I can't see how it's hard to quit cutting yourself to be honest, it can't possibly give you a buzz or anything.

    Also, whats up charley old pal? Weight of the world getting you down?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes, well if you dont understand shut the fuck up. If you dont understand dont start spouting shit. Sorry, but that kind of thing really pisses me off.

    Its very hard to stop cutting, I know <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="frown.gif" border="0"> but my doctor has advised me that I should try and do other things if I feel like I wanna cut. Go for a run, or beat up a pillow, or something- it helps me anyways <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0"> You could also try hurting yourself in other ways, like holding an ice cube to your arm, in the short term too.

    But you need to see a doctor and a counsellor in order to find out why you are wanting to cut. If youre depressed, anti-depressants could be of help; Im on fluoxetine and its been helpful to me. But get professional help- you cant do it alone.

    Good luck <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi Luna
    Is it this time of year or do you cut yourself when feeling depressed ? is there some other problems that seem to much just now mates,skool, work, family. try and find some one you trust and talk to them an aunt or some one you feel safe to talk to and maybe they could help to get you visit your doctor and talk things through talking and sharing is better than bottiling it up and hurting yourself. and if you want leave a note here with whats on your mind i am sure peaople here whould try and advice you. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hey Lunar, I'm realy sorry about the problems you're having. If it's any conscillation, there are thousands of teenagers out there who cut, it's a lot more common than you may think.
    I have had a lot of experience from self harm myself and I'm currently in an adolescent psychiatric unit to help me deal with my problems.

    I guess you self harm because it helps you cope with your feelings...am I right on his one? Just like kermit said, it is depression which causes self harm in most cases. Maybe you could get some help with this, like going to a teacher in your school/college or maybe phone the Samaritans.
    I don't have the number for them on me right now....it's too late to go upstairs 'co my Mum'll yell at me to get to bed, so I'll look tomorrow.

    Anyway, you take care, my thoughts are with you <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
    Sel
    xx
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi, i used to do it too. I suffered from depression for a number of years, and everytime i promised myself it would stop, it would start again. I told my friends because i thought it would help but they labelled me a 'freak/weirdo' (nice mates i had! <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> )
    The only way i stopped is when i wanted to stop - no other way.
    so when i took this decision i became pro-active, i had some councilling, i did a lot of exercise which helped and i would set some sort of target for the week, which i would reward myself for i.e 'if i dont cut myself and get a B for my test, i will get that pair of shoes' it was a bit costly and it sounds a bit naff but it worked because it gave me something to aim for which made me realise i had a future and it didnt involve self harm

    hope this helps
    good luck
    <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="cool.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="cool.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="cool.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes, well if you dont understand shut the fuck up. If you dont understand dont start spouting shit. Sorry, but that kind of thing really pisses me off.

    Sorry for having an opinion. I'll try to keep it to myself next time. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

    Actually I also asked a question which u failed to answer. Why do u do it. What do u get out of it i.e it can't possibly give you a buzz.

    But feel free to insult me again in your next post.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have had problems close to this, I have found that the best thing is a good friend. But that is not always possable, so just find someone you can trust. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="wink.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by The Ghost Of Kurt Cobain:
    <STRONG>

    Sorry for having an opinion. I'll try to keep it to myself next time. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

    Actually I also asked a question which u failed to answer. Why do u do it. What do u get out of it i.e it can't possibly give you a buzz.

    But feel free to insult me again in your next post.</STRONG>

    You've got me on this one now you twat. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="mad.gif" border="0">

    There is a buzz to it, thats why i did it for about 1 and half years, but i took a decision to stop for myself, and (touch wood) i've now stopped for nearly 3 months now. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">

    But don't have a go at someone on such a sensitive issue as this and not expect to get a backlash.
    Please don't reply to this, you'll only be lying more and more.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by The Ghost Of Kurt Cobain:
    <STRONG>
    it can't possibly give you a buzz.
    </STRONG>

    Erm.....that's dumb. It's like saying that being in a wheelchair can't knock your self esteem...you don't
    know unless you've been in that situation.

    Some people think that self harm is sick, or related to the devil or Marylin manson. In my own experience, I used it as a way to cope and i found it did give me a buzz, almost like a drug or something.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well then can someone give me a REASON as to why it gives you a buzz? I meant it couldn't possibly in the medical aspect.

    As I have never done it I wouldn't know. I've never scraped my knee and liked it so what does it do for you all?
    You've got me on this one now you twat.
    Umm...how about fuck you.

    But don't have a go at someone on such a sensitive issue as this and not expect to get a backlash.
    Actually if you bothered to read you would find that I hadn't had a go at anyone.

    I used it as a way to cope and i found it did give me a buzz, almost like a drug or something.
    Well ok then fair enough. Thanks for being a rational human being <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
    So Lib, how did it give you a rush? I'm being totally sincere here btw, I'm honestly curious.

    Oh, and if you want to retaliate with stupidity or resort to another juvenile slating of myself tourette, feel free to direct all your hostility to the nearest brick wall. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

    [ 25-12-2001: Message edited by: The Ghost Of Kurt Cobain ]
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know the chemical side of it, but I got a buzz.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If I remember correctly, it's endorphins. Your body releases them when you're in pain. I find it makes me feel more relaxed and sleepy, which is why I do it. When I'm feeling all anxious I find it's the only way to calm me down, and is far less painful in the short term than the panic attacks I get if I leave it.

    But then everyone's different, and my reasons for self-harming now are very different to my reasons for self-harming when I first started (I started when I was 12 and the panic attacks didn't start 'till I was 15, and for totally unrelated reasons)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It gives you a buzz because it is a way of releasing tension and pain; in order to stop feeling in pain emotionally you inflict physical harm on yourself. Its hard to explain it unless you know what its like too.

    What annoyed me was you saying it cant be hard to stop whne you have absolutely no understanding of the subject. And also linking clinical depression for 'the world getting you down'. Flippancy is not nice in such a sensitive issue; if you dont understand, then ask, dont just expect that its easy to give up. Its like asking a druggie why they cant stop, it has the same effect as a drug.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok so now we've kissed and made up <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="wink.gif" border="0"> I just wanna point out that the weight of the world bit was directed at Charley cos he said he was having problems of his own at the mo <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Snow White:
    <STRONG>If I remember correctly, it's endorphins. Your body releases them when you're in pain. I find it makes me feel more relaxed and sleepy, which is why I do it. </STRONG>

    Well if it's a release of Endorphins you are after you could try working out at the gym, that releases endorphins - I'm praticaly addicted to a combinataion of endorphins and adrenaline. Just don't decide to do yourself damage by overdoing it to get more endorphins, as you can really do yourself a LOT of damage....
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Firstly my sympathy are with you peeps that do as my sister used to but i dont really understand as i was never there myself.

    Secondly Kurt unless im very mistaken Charley is female. <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="tongue.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Alistair:
    <STRONG>

    Well if it's a release of Endorphins you are after you could try working out at the gym, that releases endorphins - I'm praticaly addicted to a combinataion of endorphins and adrenaline. Just don't decide to do yourself damage by overdoing it to get more endorphins, as you can really do yourself a LOT of damage....</STRONG>


    When you're depressed, workng out is the last thing you want to do. I mean, it's going out into society when all you want to do is withdraw...imagine having someone sit on your shoulders, that's how it feels, like a heavy person is sitting on your shoulders and mocking you. It's hard to excercise with someone on top of you.

    Just for the record, Charley is female <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="smile.gif" border="0">
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's so much more than just the endorphins at the same time though. Yes, exercising gives you a rush, but it's a different sort of rush to the one that cutting gives you.

    I find that exercising makes me feel more alive, but after I've gotten home and wound down my depression's normally worse than when I left the house in the first place.

    Cutting, on the other hand, is a form of release. It's like all the tension and horribleness is being drained out at the same time as the blood, and I can relax afterwards. It's hard to describe it, and it's different to people who just cut without the anxiety and depression beforehand. I've done that before, and it never feels the same.

    Erm yeah. I'm not making much sense...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok I stand corrected.
    I can't say I have too much experience in the area.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i dont cut, i dont have the type of mind that would be able to do it. i dont like needles at all, but i know why people would cut. ive been in situations when i need a stress release, i used to hit something soft (cuz when it was hard it fucking hurt <IMG alt="image" alt="image" SRC="wink.gif" border="0">) then over the years i just try to sleep. sounds weird, but thats how i cope

    to cut is to release, thats the best way i guess i can explain it. ive never done it but i do have friends who have and ive helpeed 3 out of 4 stop. its been tough, ive had calls all thru the nite cuz they really need someone2 talk2, but i dont mind helping out cuz i understand what they go through

    if you wanna stop cuttin i really think you need someone that can always b on call for you, so you can talk2 them and release it out with them there, so they stop you. kind of like a willing cold turkey against it. you need someone u can trust and want to help u.

    sleep is kinda like a release, if you can calm yourself down.

    other than that im not really sure, sorry
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ~*LIBERTY*~:
    <STRONG>


    It's hard to excercise with someone on top of you.

    </STRONG>

    I agree. Cutting is for some people an act of self presevation. When you are feeling low, so low that the only thing it feels possible to do is hurt yourself, then at these times cutting is a way of survival. You cut not because you want to die, but because you want to live.

    MAny people think "an outward expression of an inward scream" is very accurate. I agree, but i think that's only part of the story, people cut for different reasons just as people go to clubs for different reasons. the is no singular reason or clear cut definition of why people do it.

    BY focusing on endorphins you are making it sound like a phsical addiction which I don't think it is for most people. cutting is a psychological illness.

    for me, personally cutting is a way of coping with the feelings of chronic emptiness. I often believe that I am not real, that life is not real. On days like this, I cannot move or speak or eat. I only breathe because it is automatic. Cutting helps bring me back down to reality. KInd of like pinching yourself to make sure you're awake.

    like I said, that's part of it.

    As for stopping, (which is why this thread started) it is fucking difficult. If cutting has become a big part of how you cope with life then you are very lucky if you can just stop. Most people need councilling/therapy or at the very least a good support network of caring friends and family.

    I have an action plan... 5 things that I have to do before I can cut. THese include phoning people and taking a bath and writing...but it has taken me years to be able to control it like this. I really do suggest you get help of some sort. Every day I am more grateful that I did.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Damn. I didn't see that i missed out the s in front of he. I knew Charley was female, honest!

    Good luck to the people in this topic who do self harm and I hope they all find a way out
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Been away from here for a bit, back now. And still alive.

    Firstly, yes I am female, although it has been mistaken a few times.

    I do cut, and have done for many many years. Unlike other people on here, I love it and don't want to stop, although many of my friends and family would rather that I didn't do it. I could almost say that it is addictive, to me it is almost as addictive as having a fag or something.

    Sometimes I am purely bored, others seriously upset, hysterical, numb, drunk, you name it, I think for me cutting comes with almost every emotion, even the rarer happier ones. Maybe I am a little sicker than most people on here, but I don't really care, counseling has helped me accept myself a little more.

    And my advice to whoever started this thread, I think if it is that serious and you feel that you need further help, I'd follow the general advice that has been posted so far, and perhaps go visit your GP or talk to a counselor.

    Like I already said, I don't know much about you, you may have similar reasons to me or others on here, you may have totally different ones. Either way, some counseling might help you to get your head around it if you feel that that is what you need.

    Also, apologies again for my first post in this thread.

    Take care all xxx
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