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Policing of Today
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............is shit !!!!!
Sorry but it is. Tonight in my street the police were called by someone because youngsters aged 5/9 ish were throwing rocks and bricks in the street. One hit a vehicle and put a dent in it. So yeah Mr Policeman comes along, he talks to the person who reported it and then he fooked off :eek2:
WHY didnt he speak to the culprits? WHY did he just drive off? WHY didnt he have a quiet word with the youngsters and let them know he was on their case ?
Is it any wonder crime is at such a high rate. After he left one of the little barstewards only had a house brick in his hand and was gonna throw it at a car as it was driving past......thats until the BIG BAD WOLF (me), told him to DROP it .
All the policeman had to do was have a quiet word, let them know he knew what they had been doing and that he wasnt gonna let them damage other peoples property............but he didnt, he got in his car and drove off :mad:
Sorry but it is. Tonight in my street the police were called by someone because youngsters aged 5/9 ish were throwing rocks and bricks in the street. One hit a vehicle and put a dent in it. So yeah Mr Policeman comes along, he talks to the person who reported it and then he fooked off :eek2:
WHY didnt he speak to the culprits? WHY did he just drive off? WHY didnt he have a quiet word with the youngsters and let them know he was on their case ?
Is it any wonder crime is at such a high rate. After he left one of the little barstewards only had a house brick in his hand and was gonna throw it at a car as it was driving past......thats until the BIG BAD WOLF (me), told him to DROP it .
All the policeman had to do was have a quiet word, let them know he knew what they had been doing and that he wasnt gonna let them damage other peoples property............but he didnt, he got in his car and drove off :mad:
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i blame the parents amonst other things.
why are thiose kids out unsupervised. at that age ...come on!
the locals should deal with it ...but we're not allowed to that either any fucking mo...
we have to blame ourselves at the end of the day.
he would have to do the paperwork anyhow. You see if they can stop these little thugs turning into big thugs then this place would be a safer plac to live in.
At the end of the day its criminal damage, even if its a 4/5/6/7/8 or 10 yr old.......nip it in the bud NOW not when they are 16/20 yr old...surely?
If it had been my vehicle they had damaged then i can assure you the copper would not have walked away.
surely thats the parents job stopping an innocent child from becoming a moron ...
we can't hire armies to do that job for us ...it just won't work.
cos some parents dont give ashit.........go on jonny out after tea and dont come back till bedtime, now thats the problem.
so if the parents dont give a shit then someone has to stop them and in this case the police should becasue they have damaged stuff.
edited to say: maybe not as harsh when they're so young, but they should be punished in some way, to show that they cannot get away with doing wrong things.
this couldn't work today because of the thug mentality.
Incidentally on Oxford buses there's an advert for vacancies for civilian ancilliaries to do some of the routine research and investigative work (running PNC checks, analysing test results, that kind of thing I expect) so that more officers can be out in public even when there are big cases to investigate ... the slogan is "When they [constables] are on the beat, who's on the case?"
I guess the point is that the police are trying to do things to sort this out! Whether it'll work remains to be seen.
You get plastered and you or others cause damage and threatening behaviour.
Until the death penalty is introduced for oittering this country will remain in a mess.
Uhm yeah! Send the little delinquent bastards to boot camp! And once they're old enough throw 'em in the army... Prison seems like a holiday camp... I know a girl who's gone there and has satalite television, she gets to play pool and all that.... And why?
For dealing drugs....
That's not fair... There are people on the streets living it rough because they ran away from home to escape abuse, yet you break the law and you get an easy ride (however some methods used in prison, such as restorative justice I do agree with)... I mean they might as well send them to Butlins!
I think if kids are punished harsher, made to feel guilty they'd be less likely to offend again. And I'm all for boot camps & army service.... Get them to do a little work and learn some dicipline.
I criticise the police because i felt they didnt do a decent duty to stop anti social behaviour and even though we are talking kids they did damage to a vehicle. Now if the kids cant be told off then lets go to the parents !!!!
You may want to live in an area which has young thugs but i dont and because there has been a problem again tonight the police were called again......and they will keep getting called until these young people stop damaging property where we live.
thats all i wanted. Have a quiet word and let them know he didnt want to have to come back and see them again.
If they damage vehicles then the parents should foot the bill for the repair works. The parents should also be talked to for allowing their kids to roam the streets.....some roam around at gone 9pm, they are too young to do this so hammer the parents !!!!!!
Nope... never get drunk thankyou
I am 17, therefore I am too young to get drunk. It doesn't mean I don't get drunk of course, but I drink responsibly and do not become violent like the 1000 or so chavs that come out of liqiud and start fights. :rolleyes:
In this forum?
You've picked the wrong group to have a go at this time doofus.
You're funny.
So many lame attempts to start controversy and all are ignored. Bet that really pisses you off...
Trouble now is, there's very little a cop could have actually done to them.
They are below the age of criminal responsibility, meaning there's nothing that can be done.
In the old days they'd have been driven back to their parents and their parents had their ears roasted. Thanks to the liberal brigade it's not even possible to do that anymore.
A good idea would be to organise a big group of you to catch the little bastards and march them back to their respective houses. What were you doing when they were throwing stones? Just watching?
As for CSO's, yes we're supposed to be dealing with stuff like this, and in my neck of the woods we would have done, but I can't speak for other areas.
...because that would be assault?
How come? What has the "liberal brigade" done to stop a policeman apprehending a kid, escorting them home and informing their parents why...?
And there isn't a specific law enabling a police officer to escort a minor home, unless the area they are being escorted from has been designated under section 30 of the anti-social behaviour act
(power for a constable in uniform to remove persons under the age of 16 to their home address if found in a designated area).
Maybe giving them a clip round the ear would be taking it too far, but a huge number of children nowadays have no respect for people or property. being taught that their actions will have conscequences from an early age would be beneficial.
Because then id have been nicked !!!!
OK lets clarify sommat. I have an 8 yr old Daughter who has to play near her home, I dont alow her to roam. Now the kids im talking about come from families who dont give a shit. The kids come out with 'fu*k of ya cun*" etc etc, they aint your average yongster just playing they are young thugs who in 10 yrs time will be BIG thugs.
I heard a bang and realised that they had hit a vehicle, so i informed the people whos vehicle it was what had happened, they then telephoned the police.
So right the police come out and what does it say to the kids when the police dont even speak to them ? If my Daughter has done something wrong she gets told then and there....not 2 weeks after the thing. The policeman could have showed some responsibilty to the kids by talking to them. All the kids could see was :
Hey weve just damaged a vehicle and the copper did fu*k all, he didnt even tell us off.
After the police went i told a kid off for throwing another stone which he had ready to throw at a cr as it was going down the street, it could have killed someone.
Anti social behaviour by children has to be adressed, just because they are kids should not mean its ok. This is my home and I have to live here and I will keep phoning the police if I see anything as will a few of the other neighbours......the police WILL get sick of the phone calls and they WILL do something.
Amen! Quite appropriate really...
Anyway, there are problem kids that hang about outside my boyfriend's house. They're early teens I would guess and they're little shits. They throw rocks, scream obscenities at any poor soul who happens to cross their path, drink alcohol (I mean, wft? Where do these 12/13 year olds get big bottles of dirty cider?) and are basically a disruption to everyone living around there.
We've phoned the police a couple of times when they've been vandalising trees and fences, and have watched from the driveway as the police stand about chatting with these kids and walk off. Admittedly if they have alcohol around (that they haven't managed to hide) they do confiscate it. The thing that pisses me off is since they've come out, they may as well reprimand them in some way....if they did then maybe the kids would have the respect for the police that (most) older people do. When they turn up, stand around, then drive back off...all without so much as a cross word, it seems to me that they're discrediting the adults who have previously told them off etc. After this happens the kids have the attitude that if the police aren't going to stop them, they're entitled to do whatever they want...and then proceed to do so!
Argh, this hasn't made a lot of sense, probably cos this subject gets me pretty riled up. I especially hate it when parents try and excuse their childrens' bad behaviour by saying to me "oh you were young not so long ago" or "kids will be kids" because yes I was a kid in the not so distant past...but I never ever behaved like these children do and I find it inexcusable.
In Hailsham, East Sussex, where my boyfriend's mum is they have lots of CSO. It seems that things take longer to come up North, it took years for us to get a black dust bin, when Londoners had one years ago.
They seem to do the trick, i've seen them deal with a few kids.
I found myself watching a schools' programme about youth councils ... can't remember the town (it was in the north) but the programme followed one councilor (she was 16 - just got her GCSE results) as she organised meetings between local kids and decision makers. So many kids were so angry about violence and especially about discarded needles and drug dealers and so on.
Maybe there's an army there that can be tapped ... get the younger kids to express forcefully and en masse their resolve that they *don't* want all the trees torn up, skate parks terrorised by drunk 15 year olds, to be sworn at, to have their bikes nicked etc.
Just a thought!
makes sense dunnit ...alienated or involved?
my problem with the whole thing is the parents ...the family and the environment ...we don't need to go back to victorian values ...we still have the same problems. we still have the same fucking roads in large parts ...child prostituion ...how were the peelers fairing? not very well by all accounts.
some things never change ...until the consumer society arrives ...who in their right fucking minds would pay thousands of pounds for something ...and then leave it out in the street!!!!! ?
the kids used to chase rabbits and kick fences ...now people leave millions of quids lying around the unforgiving streets.
we can't win realy ...we are building some kind of assylum i reckon.
Ive since found out a neighbour called them out because of the recent going ons and they just weren't interested.....like the police weren't.
I was playing out in the street until about five/six years ago, or at least "hanging about"...and we wouldn't have dared do anything out of order just for fear of being glimpsed out of the window by someone. So what's it come to now when kids aren't fearful of parents, neighbours, police, adults in general. They have a free reign really, because anyone who does make a stand and confront the buggers is at risk of being accused of assault and all the rest.
Pathetic :rolleyes: