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The beginning of the end for the atrocity that is Guantanamo?
BillieTheBot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3848279.stm
Let's not forget that after more than two years the US administration has only managed to charge fewer than 20 prisoners with anything. The other 600+ remain illegally imprisoned and subject to inhuman conditions and torture.
At least now the prisoners can have the possibility of challenging their disgraceful imprisonment in court. I hope they sue for damages. Dealing with US courts as they will be- the land of the multi-million dollar lawsuit- I sincerely hope every last one wrongfully imprisoned man sues the US government for tens of millions of dollars. I hope those freedom-hating, anti-democratic, sinister scumbags sitting in government in the US are landed the biggest lawsuit in history and are made to pay for this disgusting abomination.
The US government shouldn't be allowed to call itself a democracy or to use the words 'justice' and 'freedom' for as long as the revolting nazi-style prison camp exists.
Let's not forget that after more than two years the US administration has only managed to charge fewer than 20 prisoners with anything. The other 600+ remain illegally imprisoned and subject to inhuman conditions and torture.
At least now the prisoners can have the possibility of challenging their disgraceful imprisonment in court. I hope they sue for damages. Dealing with US courts as they will be- the land of the multi-million dollar lawsuit- I sincerely hope every last one wrongfully imprisoned man sues the US government for tens of millions of dollars. I hope those freedom-hating, anti-democratic, sinister scumbags sitting in government in the US are landed the biggest lawsuit in history and are made to pay for this disgusting abomination.
The US government shouldn't be allowed to call itself a democracy or to use the words 'justice' and 'freedom' for as long as the revolting nazi-style prison camp exists.
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So? Why should he have to explain his movements? Its no one's business. The US should either charge them or release them.
Looks suspicious to you? Hey, we can all sleep safe in our beds tonight, lukesh from Stoke is on the case! :rolleyes:
Many of the people in Guantanamo were only guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and were rounded up by US soldiers. These people do not belong to the Taliban or Al Qaida or any other fighting group, yet were surrounded and put into the first plane out, no questions asked.
As for those who were involved in the fighting, many of them belonged to the Taliban not Al Qaida, and regardless of what the US might claim to the contrary fighting a foreign invader is not a crime. So they should not be there.
Which leave us with alleged Al Qaida fighters. There might be a case against these people, but if that is the case they should have been taken to US soil, given their basic human rights and treated humanely. The US has just about broken every law and accord there is regarding human rights, access to lawyers, mistreatment, torture, illegal imprisonment, the right to a fair trial, etc.
Let's not forget that you could expect a fairer trial from the Taliban themselves or from a little banana republic than the prisoners of Guantanamo are 'entitled' to. Limited or no access to lawyer, military tribunals, judges and representatives appointed by the US government... the whole thing is a sad travesty of justice.
Treaties signed long ago in a different world. We need new treaties, we need new methods of fighting terrorism that arent bound by ancient treaties signed during the cold war.
How very surprising :rolleyes: to see you justifying a filthy illegal torture camp such as Guantanamo.
I suppose you don't see anything wrong either with the appalling abuses at Abu Ghraib prison do you?
LOL. I still remember you claiming about a year ago (and in BLOCK CAPITALS, such was your indignation) that US soldiers "don't torture people".
Torture is absolutely unacceptable regardless of the person's crimes.
And let's not forget the convenient demonisation of the term "terrorist". A terrorist is not particularly worse than a paramilitary gang member or a soldier who commits war crimes or targets civilians.
Pretty much the same story as governments and armed forces to be found everywhere. A murder is every bit as unacceptable whether the perpetrator is wearing an army uniform or a headscarf.
Errrr...yes they are.
So basic human rights should be abandoned?
Its no one elses business what they were doing there.
Who was that? On what programme? What day?
They're whats on tonight at 9pm.
The hypocrisy of the Hate America First Club knows no limits, does it?
Is that sand behind your ears thanny?
Either back up statements of fact with hard evidence or kindly have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge that you do not truly have factual support for your beliefs but choose to hold them anyways.
Oh and "taking one's word for it" is precisely the sort of intellectual dishonesty which has so many people believing and vociferously arguing across the internet in defense of demonstrable misinformation. That is how urban myths gain such a broad base of regurgitators who make no attempt to confirm what they hear or read before spreading it further to other gullible types.
Im sorry if noone has ever taught you the basic principles of legitimate debate, but you would be well advised to learn them and practice them, as well as having the intellectual honesty to deal with counter evidence and perchance amend false assumptions which may be inevitably proven incorrect if debate is what you are truly after.
If you simply wish to cling your opinion regardless of evidence to the contrary (like some previously mentioned), then a debate forum is obviously not what you you seek.
Now, before Jim scolds us again, back to the topic under discussion.
Maybe so, maybe we do need new treaties.
Until that happens though, the existing ones are in force and should be enforced.