Home Politics & Debate
If you need urgent support, call 999 or go to your nearest A&E. To contact our Crisis Messenger (open 24/7) text THEMIX to 85258.
Read the community guidelines before posting ✨

A question to Blagsta

You always say you are ( or was in the past) an anarchist. Although I never believe in this ( I think you are a typical left liberal) I ask you for help. Do you know where can I find an online version of Leo Tolstoy’s Superstition of State ( I even don’t know whether English translation exists or not...)

PS This article is in my mom’s library and I read it when I was 14. I reread it recently and of course I understand it better. I’d say I 90% agree with Tolstoy’s ideas.
Beep boop. I'm a bot.

Comments

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You say you're an anarchist, but you're not. You're a free market libertarian.

    And as for the other thing, never heard of it, try here www.google.com
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You can also try www.bookfinder.com
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi Blagsta
    I got kinda offer…
    Let’s come to some agreement.
    I promise you not to comment your posts on all topics.
    You promise me the same.
    To settle our quarrels we can use some thread… this one for example. Why not?
    You blame me in not being a proper anarchist ( I am a free market libertarian that is from your point of view … well, I’m shut up)
    I blame you in not being a former proper anarchist ( I just can’t imagine in which mystical way an anarchist can turn into a left liberal)
    For the most guys here it is not interesting. True anarchists, false anarchists… they all are vandals who are against Law, Order, and Civilisation so who the hell does need to know their nuances…
    What do you think?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't give a fuck really. I just think you need to educate yourself.

    And I'm a left liberal again am I? I was a communist earlier according to you. Make your mind up!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    can't you people do this in PM's?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Jim V
    can't you people do this in PM's?
    It would be boring. What a joy to fight, quarrel and insult each other if there are no witnesses?
    Originally posted by Blagsta

    And I'm a left liberal again am I? I was a communist earlier according to you. Make your mind up!
    The difference between communists and left liberals is tiny and from market anarchist point of view almost invisible
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    LOL! :D

    You're silly.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I’m not.
    My exams’ results don’t confirm your idea.
    My friends think I am crazy but in no way silly.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Nah, dont do it in PM's, I like watching Blagsta get chased :D
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LabRat
    I’m not.
    My exams’ results don’t confirm your idea.
    My friends think I am crazy but in no way silly.

    Exam results? What the fuck has that to do with anything? :confused::confused:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LabRat
    It would be boring. What a joy to fight, quarrel and insult each other if there are no witnesses?

    The difference between communists and left liberals is tiny and from market anarchist point of view almost invisible

    Market Anarchists :confused:

    Que?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BlackArab
    Market Anarchists :confused:

    Que?
    It is a question? Or an expression of embarassment?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Market anarchists is a contradiction in terms. More of Labrats bizarre fantasy life.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It isn’t.
    Market and Anarchy are two names of the same thing.
    Real troubles are with the term ‘socialist anarchism’ that is a classical oxymoron like Square Circle, Roasted Ice and Just Government.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Errrrr...no. You silly silly boy.
    Read up about the history of anarchist ideas sometime.
    Gerrard Winstanley, who published a pamphlet calling for communal ownership and social and economic organization in small agrarian communities in the 17th century, is considered one of the forerunners of modern anarchism. The first modern author to have published a treatise explicitly advocating the absence of government was William Godwin in An Enquiry Concerning Political Justice (1793); though he did not use the word anarchism, he is today regarded by some as the "founder of philosophical anarchism"[6] (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/godwin/). The term "anarchist" was used during the French Revolution as a derogatory term against the left, but Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, adopted the term to describe his political philosophy in the 1840s.
    William Godwin's An Enquiry Concerning Political Justice, in which he presents his vision of a free society published in 1793 alongside a critique of government, is considered by some to be the first anarchist treatise. These commentators credit him with founding modern philosophical anarchism although Godwin never used the word anarchism. He is also considered a forebear of utilitarianism. It wasn't until Pierre-Joseph Proudhon published What is Property? in 1840 that the term "anarchist" was adopted as a self-description. It is for this reason that some claim Proudhon as the founder of modern anarchist theory.

    Individualists, taking much from the writings of Max Stirner, among others, demanded the utmost respect for the liberty of the individual.

    Later in the 19th century, Anarchist communist theorists like Mikhail Bakunin and Peter Kropotkin built on the Marxist critique of capitalism and synthesized it with their own critique of the state, emphasizing the importance of a communal perspective to maintain individual liberty in a social context.

    Mikhail Bakunin saw a need to defend the working class against oppression and overthrow the ruling class as a means to dissolve the state. Peter Kropotkin's anarchist communism developed from his scientific theory based on evolution in which co-operation equaled or surpassed competition in importance, as illustrated in Mutual Aid (1897).
    In the late 19th century Anarchosyndicalism developed as the industrialized form of libertarian communism, emphasizing industrial actions, especially the general strike, as the primary strategy to achieve anarchist revolution, and "build the new society in the shell of the old".

    Anarchists played a role in many of the labour movements, uprisings, and revolutions of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, including the Russian Revolution (1917). In the United States, many new immigrants were anarchists; an especially notable group was the large number of Jewish immigrants who had left Russia and Eastern Europe during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. These groups were disrupted by the Red Scare of 1919.

    The anarcho-syndicalist orientation of many early American labor unions played a large part in the formation of the American political spectrum. The United States is the only industrialized former English colony to not have a labor-based political party.

    and one more...
    After World War II a political theory known as anarcho-capitalism developed, mainly in North America. Drawing primarily from classical laissez-faire liberalism in addition to several other political and economic theories, it is disowned by many anarchists who believe that capital relations contradict widely held anarchist tenets
    (italics mine)

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism#History_of_anarchism

    Read Proudhon. Then come back to me. :rolleyes:
Sign In or Register to comment.