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help with a friend... ex friend? :(

Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
okay guys, i could really do with some help here... (this has gotta be the first time in months, and i HAVE technically left... but still.)

i did a very stupid and mean thing to a friend. i found her password out by a combination of guessing and hints being given from someone else who had found it (doesnt matter who or how particularly, but they werent intending anything malicious with it.)

i am incredibly nosy at times and im afraid i couldnt resist seeing whether the password she used for one thing was the one she used for others, like her email. so i logged into her hotmail account, and i read a few emails. i felt bad the whole time, heart thumping, face flushed, feeling like i was going to get found out the whole time.

i clearly know i shouldnt have done this, and i felt so guilty about it, and even tried to get the other friend to get her to change her password in some way that didnt get her suspicious, so i couldnt be tempted to read her mail. anyway i resisted the urge to do it again, and she said she'd changed her password sometime later of her own accord anyway.

i felt relieved. this was several weeks ago now... but someone who i considered to be a very close friend has turned against me and stuff recently, and he thought it'd be fun to tell the world about it. so of course, she read it, was immensely hurt, hates me. and now other people are passing judgement too, some who dont even know me.

ive apologised about as much as its possible to, in all forms, talking on msn, email, in livejournal comments... im at a loss of what i can do. i couldnt possibly be any more sorry. i understand that she probably wont be able to trust me again for a long time, maybe ever. i just wish there was something i could do to make her see that i didnt mean to hurt her, and that i really hate that i could do this to anyone, especially someone who was a friend. you will probably say for me to tell her all this, well i have. *is still hated* <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt;

if any of you know who im talking about, please dont say anything (unless the person directly involved wants to say who they are)... i imagine a few of you will know who im talking about.

anyway, anything that you can possibly think of to help, id be very grateful.

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    JsTJsT Posts: 18,268 Skive's The Limit
    We all make mistakes, things spur of the moment that we regret later. What you have to is let her know your sorry, and someway try and make it up to here, which i know isnt going to be easy
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'll second that, tho it seems like you've done pretty much all you can to express your regret and shame for what you did. So now the ball's in her court. And to be honest, I can understand how let down and hurt she must be feeling. Anything of that nature is a major breach of trust, as you know, so it will take her a while to forgive you. If she is a true friend, I'm sure she will. Just give her time.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    All I can say is Em, hope that this person understands and forgives you. Let her see how sorry you are, do you know her in person? But apart from that, make this an experience you will learn from, don't go looking, no matter how tempting it is. I know my gf's e-mail password for instance, and at times it is like a big red button saying "do not push", so I understand how tough it must have been anyway, just in future resist!
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    thanks for your replies (but dont stop people!! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; )

    she's someone i know through the internet mainly, but we've met.

    apart from not to act on urges of nosiness, ive learnt not to trust a hellofalot of people. people who i thought were my best friends. very sad.

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    the_Paranoid_bunnythe_Paranoid_bunny Posts: 487 Listening Ear
    i can't help thinking this is all my fault.

    i wish people would turn on me instead. i hate it when the wrong people get the blame <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt;

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by the_Paranoid_bunny:
    i can't help thinking this is all my fault.

    i wish people would turn on me instead. i hate it when the wrong people get the blame <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt;


    The plot thickens......care to explain?

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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    *will explain*
    Originally posted by Girl-From-Mars:
    i found her password out by a combination of guessing and hints being given from someone else who had found it (doesnt matter who or how particularly, but they werent intending anything malicious with it.)

    aforementioned friend is the_Paranoid_bunny. hope that answers your Q whowhere <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

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    [This message has been edited by Girl-From-Mars (edited 26-09-2001).]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    me and my bf have each other passwords but we never go on each others.

    i have to confess that i did go on my ex's once. he was cheating on me though i was very insecure and wanted evidence.

    i know you mean about feeling bad. ur heart just races and u go hot its not v. nice. @ least u have a conscience! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt; maybe in time she will forgive you.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    (((((Emma)))))

    You don't need me to tell you this, but what you've done is going to make it difficult for her to trust you again. Saying you're sorry many times from the bottom of your heart is the most you can do to make things up, and it's good to let her know you are sorry - but unfortunately it's not going to make the hurt and betrayal she's feeling right now go away.

    In time she may be able to forgive you or she may not. It's her decision and hopefully the strength of your friendship will bring you back together in the end, but there's nothing more you can do to influence it positively. All you can do now is give her time to come to terms with the hurt and begin to deal with it rationally.

    I really do hope things that sometime in the future you'll be able to talk this out together and become friends again.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think everyone's said just about all that there is, GFM. All you can really do is sit back and wait, and hope that she'll realise your sincerity and see how bad you feel about all this. This is a shitty situation, I know from experience, and I hope it works out in the end ((GFM))
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    thank you to all who have replied <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    i think you're right about just giving it time now and hoping for the best. she knows im sorry at least <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I hae been in thios situation before and am very embaressed to say it is due to my paranoia. You see I managed to, with some help, get hold of my girlfriends password and get into her email. This I did as mentioned before because I was paranoid that there would be dodgey e-mails, on reflection now I really did not have the grounds to suspect this and feel really guilty about it. Especially since there weren't and dodgey mails.

    You have done everything right, you are clearly sorry like I was. I hope she forgives you although it will take alot longer for trust to be regained to what it was before, you seem to have the right sort of personality to accomplish this though. So good luck!

    Oh and by the way glad you poppped back for a bit since I didn't really have a chance to get to know you before you left.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    K bit iffy. Its bad wat u did u no that so theres a start. but she will alwayz come back with " If u knew it was bad and an invasion of privacy y did u do it" bit hard to ansa. The only way is "I'm a cow, a heartless tit who can't eva be trusted by a m8 again, but plz one more chance" or words to that affect. Only one option really APOLOGISE as much as possible and neva argue she is alwayz rite. Luck
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    (((( Emma ))))

    She told me about this a while back on MSN and is understandibly upset about it all.

    I'm not going to go telling you about what you should or shouldn't of done because you can't change the past... <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    As mentioned earlier these things take time to heal, she considered herself a close friend of yours and this incident made her feel as if she didn't know you as well as she could of. You coming on here asking for advice was a good move as it at least shows your trying to make-a-mends, things will take time but I'm sure she'll find someway in the near future in her heart to forgive you... but it may well take time to build up the trust element that was once so strong.

    I wish you the very best and hope that things will work out, I'll try and speak with her as well and see if I can help in anyway. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    [This message has been edited by Justin Credible (edited 04-10-2001).]
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    thank you all, especially justin <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    it doesnt seem too bad at the mo. at least we're on livejournal commenting terms <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; i know it'll take time. i just didnt know what to do other than post this msg, i didnt know if there was something obvious that i could do that was missing... and i idnt know if she thought i was sorry or not or thought other things of me because of it. but i think it may have helped, a teensy bit <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    thanks everyone for not having a go at me, it really wouldnt have helped. even if you felt like saying something, im glad you didnt. not trying to pretend it wasnt a bad thing, i just know its not something i need every man and his dog telling me.

    but yeah, anyway just another thanks really <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

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