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The BNP - The Truth in their own words

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
This is the reality of the BNP:

1. A nation that spends more on rehousing non-whites abroad than it does on housing natives by bribing countries to take them.

2. Withdrawl from the EU, our closest neighbours but creating a new political bloc with former white-dominated empire countries.

3. A police state, with the restoration of Capital punishment, and the legalisation of vigilanties. Plus the return of using torture on petty criminals, vandals (protestors against the BNP?) and children. Police will no longer be tied by "rules" on the use of force.

4. The exclusion of products from foreign countries and the collectivisation of industry.

5. Schoolchildren taught national pride before anything else.

6. Our "self sufficient" economy would no longer focus on quantity of food produced but quality. We would no longer have coffee, tea, certain fruits, rices etc. to protect "British interests from Third World handouts".

7. No more foreign aid.............foreign doctors, nurses, cleaners.........

8. Children will die outside schools, people will die doing 150mph on the motorway and roads will crumble through lack of investment as road tax and fuel tax are reduced while speed cameras and speed limits on motorways are abolished.

9. They're pro-car yet want a "pollution free Britain" ????

10. They want a return of "traditional" local housing and architecture (thatched roofs, mud huts, caves?).

11. Foreign aid will be linked with resettlement, meaning we pay them to take back people who will easily gobble up our "generous" investment. The "billions" of pounds "saved" will go on "vital British services".

12. Making sure pensioners can live in luxury while theres no mention of young "white" families who I'm sure the BNP want to support them also.

13. The annextion of the Republic of Ireland into the United Kingdom and the banning of Sinn Fein.

14. The restoration of National Service ,the withdrawl from NATO, the closure of all foreign bases on British soil and increased military spending despite the fact we will have a "position of armed neutrality".

15. Isolation from the rest of the world. We would, and they proudly state, "have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten Britain's interests." What about those who do?

16. Referndums on everything under the sun. Politicians will no longer be allowed to run the country, Joe Bloggs down the road will be as important constitutionally as the Prime Minister so we end up with thousands of microstates all run by the BNP.

I was of two minds whether or not to go to their website but the truth has to be known but here's the link for anyone who disputes my interpretation.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies.html

Can any person who has Britains interests at heart really believe the BNP do as well?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Okay, a racist police state I could live with.


    But No coffee? :eek:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    One quick glance at that list explains perfectly why that school, religious or not, did the right thing in suspending the teacher standing as a BNP candidate.

    No one who subscribes to such policies and furthermore stands for such party should be allowed near children.

    As far as I'm concerned there might even be grounds for taking the children of BNP members into care, if there is any evidence they're poisoning the kids' minds with such obscene filth.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Dangerous view point Aladdin and it makes you closer to the sort of thinking that the BNP displays than I think you would be comfortable with.

    That people hold these views is one thing I deplore. That you seek to silence them is another.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh come on the party is a far right facist party and the people who vote for the BNP are racist.

    All the stuff the BNP is scaremongering and playing on peoples irrational fears

    If u dont believe that u are naive
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent
    Dangerous view point Aladdin and it makes you closer to the sort of thinking that the BNP displays than I think you would be comfortable with.

    That people hold these views is one thing I deplore. That you seek to silence them is another.
    Well I’ll have to stand guilty as charged. I don't believe in 'absolute freedom of speech'. I agree with Germany making it illegal to give Nazi salutes and display Swastikas. I believe there is such a thing as a limit to things.

    It might sound imperfect or against the principle of democracy and freedom of speech, but I believe lines can be drawn, and I believe democratic decent societies can draw the line at the right place.

    The thing is, fascist/Nazi parties such as the BNP that take advantage of democracy and freedom of speech to sprout their vile filth would invariably suppress democracy and freedom of speech if they ever gained power. I don't see why we should extend unlimited rights to the very people who would suppress them for everyone else if they had the chance.

    They are the enemy of freedom.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    "Oh ffs. This is so tedious. You are like a bunch of monkeys."

    (Quote form LadyJade on closed BNP thread.)

    Just wanted too mention.........

    As far as I am concerned a moderator thinking something is 'tedious' is no grounds for closing a thread. Why does it matter really? Why not let people post what they like, as long as they are only shouting at each other (metaphorically) ?

    Heres what we will do, we will recount all the stories we have actually expaerienced ourselves, not heard in some crappy tabloid about the negative effect of immigrants.

    My negative effect from immigrants

    0 (zero)

    Anyone else?
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    I didn't close the thread because it was tedious. Tedious referred to the fact that this is becoming the sad end of many an interesting dicussion. I was frustrated because some people, the mods included, had been trying to steer the debate back to the topic. People had also been warned to play nice.

    I closed it because name calling and bickering isn't informative and doesn't contribute to people's understanding of the topic. I closed it because watching a slanging match is the equivalent of standing outside the pub on a Saturday night and watching a punchup.
    Why not let people post what they like, as long as they are only shouting at each other (metaphorically) ?

    Read the rules. There was a lot of personal sniping going on, you know we don't allow it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LadyJade

    I closed it because name calling and bickering isn't informative and doesn't contribute to people's understanding of the topic. I closed it because watching a slanging match is the equivalent of standing outside the pub on a Saturday night and watching a punchup.



    Read the rules. There was a lot of personal sniping going on, you know we don't allow it.

    i didn't relaise these debates were meant to be for the benefit of some outside party? Who is this exactly, the mods only?

    I am indeed aware of the rules, it isn't that bad really though........
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    How else can I put it Toadborg.... Its closed. Get over it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Indeed, i was just wondering, i am sure it will happen again soon, and I am sure you will have very good reason..........
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Different perspective view point here but I don't beleive all BNP voters are necissarily bad because if they have been brought up that way, how can you crucify them for it? I think there should be a greater emphasis on reeducation, and when that fails and they still choose to vote for such fascist politcal parties - then they can be held fully responsible.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fair enough but you can't go too far down the path of not holding people to account for their views/actions.

    i somehow think that reeducation would be rather difficult for adults. Best to concentrate on educating children against such views.......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    As far as I'm concerned there might even be grounds for taking the children of BNP members into care, if there is any evidence they're poisoning the kids' minds with such obscene filth.

    You should know better than to say things like that, coming from Spain.

    If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    They are the enemy of freedom.

    Communists have the Gulags.

    Be very careful when you throw stones, for everyone lives in a glass house.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    You should know better than to say things like that, coming from Spain.

    If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

    Kermit thats the 2nd Manics song I've heard from u recently.
    keep it up!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by dantheman
    Kermit thats the 2nd Manics song I've heard from u recently.
    keep it up!

    Indeed:)

    They are very good to quote if one is feeling lazy :yes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The UK is a liberal democracy, right?

    So that means there is tolerance towards differing political viewpionts and that pluralism exists between them.

    So it might not be right to 'ban' the BNP, no matter how reprehensible their views are!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

    Should read, If you tolerate pop songs like this, then your children will be next.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Communists have the Gulags.

    The Soviets had the Gulags, not the Communists. I thought you studied politics or something like that. But this would be another thread...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by dantheman
    Kermit thats the 2nd Manics song I've heard from u recently.
    keep it up!

    Aren't they Socialists? That is what they said when they did some concerts in Cuba with Castro in those concerts...

    In those concerts or at?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

    Funny you should quote a song that is about the Spanish Revolution and fighting the fascists.

    Have you seen Ken Loach's film "Land and Freedom"?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ladymuck
    Should read, If you tolerate pop songs like this, then your children will be next.

    "If I can shoot rabbits, then I can shoot fascists"

    No wonder you don't like it.


    BANG! :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ladymuck
    Should read, If you tolerate pop songs like this, then your children will be next.

    Well it got to number 1 so there you go :)
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Originally posted by xicoperez
    In those concerts or at?

    Its at if he attended the concerts :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Funny you should quote a song that is about the Spanish Revolution and fighting the fascists.

    I know, I thought so.

    Thing is, I'd quite happily see the BNP get banned; I just think that it would set an incredibly dangerous precedent, because once it happens to one group of people who's to stop it happening to other groups of people.

    I think the easiest way of getting people to stop listening to the BNP is to explain why they are wrong, why they are dangerous, and then just ignore them. Even in places like Burnley they are getting in on miniscule proportions of the popular vote, on miniscule turn-outs. Giving them the publicity they crave, like by sacking the teacher in the other thread, is counter-productive. Just like the Greens disappeared when everyone stopped talking about them, the BNP will disappear too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Exactly!!

    All this coverage makes them out to be a threat, when they are just a JOKE.

    Anyone with even half a brain who reads their website realises they are stupid.

    The problem is with the other parties and the areas where they are getting support not the BNP.

    They are a result of traditional party politics failing in those areas, and the slum condictions of "social" housing.

    They definately should not be banned.

    I dont agree with you but I will die to defend your right to say it!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    I know, I thought so.

    Thing is, I'd quite happily see the BNP get banned; I just think that it would set an incredibly dangerous precedent, because once it happens to one group of people who's to stop it happening to other groups of people.

    I wouldn't ban them, this will just make them martyrs.
    Just oppose them every time they rear their ugly little heads. Idealogically and also physically if necessary.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Just oppose them every time they rear their ugly little heads. Idealogically and also physically if necessary.

    Definitely, though I wouldn't go so far as to stop them physically. If they want to protest they have a right to be protected, just as the Commies have a right to be protected from C18.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by bongbudda
    The problem is with the other parties and the areas where they are getting support not the BNP.

    They are a result of traditional party politics failing in those areas, and the slum condictions of "social" housing.

    I think that's definitely true.

    In the areas where the BNP have been getting support, it's good to see that all the main political parties are now paying attention to what the local people are saying. The BNP is a protest vote, and it works; they are so abhorrent that everyone comes running if you vote for one of the fuckers.

    I can definitely see why people do, especially in places like Burnley, Oldham and Bradford, where people are getting exacberated by the council's actions, and lack of respect for people.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see the BNP get in in Bradford in May, public sentiment at the supposed "pandering" to the ethnic community, which has now extended so far as to give one school in Bradford an Urdu name, has upset an awful lot of people. And no doubt that when it happens the BBC will be out saying how abhorrent and racist Bradfordians are :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its like the Le Penn in France, most of the people who vote for him arent even racist as such. They are just fed up with the condictions they are forced to live in.

    These BNP candidates stand for something, they have answers, they sound like they are going to take action, that is attractive if you have to live in a "sink hole estate".

    Of course their answers are rubbish and they wouldnt achieve anything, but thats not really the point.

    As you say Kermit they are protest vote.
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