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If a landlord wants smoking in his pub then so be it. The smokers can go there!! But if another landlord bans smoking, then smokers shouldn't go there!
To have a blanket ban is prepostrous!!
He talks sense! :eek2:
Alternativly, offer tax breaks to encourage pubs/businesses to provide non-smoking areas. That would give them the choice of a lower tax rate, but possibly lower revenue, and allow the companies and the market to decide. Good point. Ideally, I'd ban cars completly, unless they met very stringent economy regulations. Although, to be fair, you don't regularly have to step out behind a lorry pumping out plumes of smoke from their exhaust, whilst having to step out in front of someone pumping out plumes of smoke from their mouth is quite a regular occurance
Yay! Let's all travel by horse and live like how it was in the good ol' days!
:rolleyes:
I dare anyone to find me the most sensitive allergic person to cigarette smoke in the whole world, and then hear that person claim that they are affected by the smoke of a cigarette while on the street. We're not talking about a Battersea Power Station chimney puffing out smoke in the 70s. We're talking about a cigarette. In open air.
I might just about believe that someone sitting in, say, a bus stop, might occasionally get a small whiff of smoke if the person sitting next to them is smoking and the wind blows the wrong way. But anywhere else? In open air? Affecting others? Please!
The day someone declares that people cannot smoke on the street is the day I take up smoking out of fucking principle.
If a landlord allows people to amoke in his/her pub in Ireland he gets fined 1000euro!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3579849.stm
Exceptions with prisons and that.
Also bans it in taxis etc:
ONce Im not eating or its not in my face I dont mind it,
But think its a good idea overall.
happened in New York already, you can get a different license there for it in a room for smokers.
A lot fo places have beer gardens and canopies for smokers-
But it will be a problem for security in nightclubs and that
It will cut smoking down as a lot of people only smke when they go to the pub-
pro outway the cons overall
And as for outside, incredibly the authorities still demanded that only 25% of the tables be allowed to be smoking. A tad too restrictive if you ask me- and again, utterly pointless since those tables are in open air.
You quit cars. So? What has that got to do with this thread?
Its an equally expensive habit buying 20 cars every morning.
I suppose your one of them weirdos who smoke tobacco?
I has my first cigarette last summer on stage because I was the part required it... It was awful. I've had about three or four...
It could have an effect on the economy too, alot of people you see in a pub in Ireland are usually smoking a cigarette, this ban could and probably will act as a deterent and people will stay away from the pub if they can't smoke or they might just head up North.
Do you not realise how much time is being wasted here?! As if the police don't have enough on their plates what with terrorism, class A drugs etc without being called to a pub full of rebellious smokers just to slap them on the wrists! It'll be like school, what with the smoking behind the bins and having someone keep watch, and hastily putting fags out.
Buses, 1 in 2 buses i get on someone smokes at some point in the journey. Its not worth the hassle to the driver, and practically every bus i get on has fag ends on the floor. Schools, a group of around 20/30 kids smokes in my school every day, and shopping centers - the shopping center in the town near me has forever got "please don't smoke" messages on, but most people do anyway. The only people on duty are a couple of security guards and some cleaners, who may ask people to go outside with their cigarettes. So no, bad examples of places where smoking has been banned successfully.
Oh, and the little "thick heads" dig, i've had more mature comments from primary school children. Grow up, and stop wanting to waste other people's time to increase your own enjoyment.
Secondly, it is a huge problem in clubs, due to not being able to leave a club without paying to get back in - lets reduce smoker's enjoyment dramatically to increase your own a little!
I think people need to think about the negative aspects and realise that smokers are people too.
1 in 2 buses you get on someone smokes? Gimme a break. I travel on buses ALL the time. 4 times a day when I go to college/uni for the past 4 years, and I can only remember several people smoking in all that time. Talk about exaggeration!
20/30 people smoke in your school every day? Yeh that used to happen in my school too, usually at breaktime behind the bikeshed of off the school premises. NO ONE smoked indoors.
And I've never come across anyone smoking in a shopping centre unless its in the smoking section of the food courts.
And anyway I think your dealing with spoilt teenagers. A pub usually consists of adults who do as they are told (or should do anyway).
Might encourage a lot of people to give up or cut down a lot. A lot of people want to stop but have no incentive, this might be what they need.
I ain't got one!