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What Would You Do?
BillieTheBot
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The BBC is showing a fascinating drama at the minute called Passer By, it's very thought provoking.
Consider this. Two leery yobs are giving a young woman hassle on the last train of the evening; they aren't being violent, but they are being aggressive. When you mildly try to butt in they insult you, so you try and pretend that they're not there. When it's your station, the girl is pleading for help without saying anything; you just get off, after pointing out the emergency cord.
What would you have done in this situation?
Consider this. Two leery yobs are giving a young woman hassle on the last train of the evening; they aren't being violent, but they are being aggressive. When you mildly try to butt in they insult you, so you try and pretend that they're not there. When it's your station, the girl is pleading for help without saying anything; you just get off, after pointing out the emergency cord.
What would you have done in this situation?
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Even though they hadn't actually done anything, they'd just been leery?
If that's not the correct meaning of the word, well, sorry.
Most deffinately, if a girl was on her own, even a bloke come to think about it and I felt they didnt like the situation id get help. (Probably wouldnt intervene myself because im only licke
I once was in the car with hubby and we were driving home. There was a woman in a car who seemed pretty distressed, she was crying and had children in the car (without seatbelts) and I just knew something was up, so we called the police and told them what we'd seen. They sent a patrol car and as I was on the phone to them I seen the police car approaching so told the operator which car they needed and saw them pull the car over.
Anyways they police called me back and thanked me for calling and said although they couldn't tell me the problem told me that this woman was very distressed and id done the right thing by calling.
So its slighlty different to the case you posted about, but if I seen anyone who could need assistance id get it.
Katie x
two people did that for me once, and i was SO grateful. like really, really could have kissed them grateful.
i was on my own on the last train, and this awful drunk guy came up to me and started shouting at me and talking filth and stuff, and i was crapping my pants. then some girl came over and was like 'OMG sarah! (or some random name) i haven't seen you for ages! me and dave are just sat over there, come over and sit with us' and gave me a 'we'll save you' look.
so i went over and they chatted to me the whole journey, and eventually the scary guy got off, and i got where i was going in one piece.
so like, if that was your friend, tell her i love her.
Katie x
nahh, this was on the train between birmingham and coventry.
but nonetheless, tell her she is a nice human being and i hope good things happen to her.
I'd probably talk to the woman, just start a conversation and if the lads got gobby I'd tell them assertively to shut the fuck up. I'd think of something to ask the lady though, a general question. Or ask one of the lads for the time. Then I'd have his face clocked.
I'd report them.
I'd persuade her to get off with me and we could contact the police.
People don't do it intentionally, but subconciously people are relucatant to answer a call for help, thinking that someone closer will help.
At the end of the day I thought about the female members of my family and what I would want someone else to do, if they were in that situation. As it was I freaked him out by acting in a certain way and he left her alone, so we were both lucky.
If they insulted me I would of gave them one more polite warning. If the problem was still there then I would get physical with them no matter if they are bigger, smaller, younger or older than me. If it was just them insulting me and they were not harrasing anyone then I may of ingored it depending on what they were doing.
Leer is when you look at someone offensively, like giving them a patronising look etc.
Leery is kinda noisy and causing a nusiance, even a violent nusiance.
I have to say I probably wouldn't have done anything as I'm not the fighting type but if it got any worse that in the programme I would hav called the police or something.
I never get the train anyway
please tell me you're taking the piss? why would anyone do that. if you were so concerned about the woman you would help her immediately, not wait and jump to the closest telephone and say "hey, two guys are leering at a woman, help her please", sorry for being aggressive but thats what i feel.
I think it would especially be true in a situation like the one described here (although I haven't seen the show) where there is a lot of ambiguity about the situation. It would be easy to convince yourself that it isn't a real emergency. Although I think you would be willing to help out more if you were the only other person present so that you felt that you were personally responsible for dealing with the situation.
I don't know what I'd do myself. I'd like to say that I would step up and help the girl out, but I don't know what I would. I think a lot of times I just freeze in emergency-like situations like that and it's not until it's all over that I can think clearly about what I should have done.
If the woman didn't come with me, and there was no ticket collector, I'd try and persuade her to get off with me and get a taxi home, and lend her some money if needs be.
That's what I think I would do anyway. I think pretending to know the person is also a very good idea, you've just got to hope they get what you're doing and play along.
Yeah I've heard of this effect too. I can't understand why the people didn't call the police though, especially if they were not really close by (and therefore more likely to be attacked for calling the police). The only thing I can think of is that they all thought someone else would have called, but surely after 30 minutes you would ring just in case.
I still like to think that I'd call though if it was me...
No im not taking the piss, and im no fucking hero ok!!!!!!
I am not prepared to get stabbed, shot or whatever as I have a Daughter at home. The sensible thing to do in this day and age is get of the train at my stop and then get help to her and if the only way i could do that was to phone 999 then id do it.
Anyone here wants to be a hero then fine, but if you lose your life through it what about your family ? what about your Hubby/Wife and Daughter at home.........ah fuck them eh ??????
also if you wanna pick me up on something then have the decency to post Kermits first post here, but to save you time I will do it for you. Please take a look at the last couple of sentences..............the girl is pleading for help, so thats why I dial 999 !!!!!!!!!!
thank you.......i'm still hot headed as ever
I would like to say that I would have done things differently, but I don't think I would have done. I don't think many people would have done.
It's interestiong to note that screaming "rape" if someone is attacking you is counter-productive- people are scared, and would avoid a girl screaming this, or about any other sort of attack. Screaming "fire" would attract people, as it doesn't involve confronting anotehr person. Bear that in mind- if people attack me, I always know to scream "fire" as it calls people towards me, not away from me.
A few years ago, I was at a party, and we were at the balcony. There was a man walking at the street, at night, with no one else around.
Suddenly another man walked up to him, grabbed him by the neck, started punching his face, then pushed him so he fell on the road. The attacker then picked him up and walked him away. I never knew what happened after that, but I remember that none of us even suggested to call the police... but I don't understand why.
It's too late now, but there's one more of the things I regtetted...