racial tensions

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hey why do u think there is still growing racial tensions in britain today?
thanks for your views

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Re: racial tensions

Originally posted by duckemma
hey why do u think there is still growing racial tensions in britain today?
thanks for your views

ignorance media and fear.

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Fisrt off, welcome to thesite. It's normal practice to answer your own question, kind of polite that way, so why do you think there's growing tension in Britain today? I think it's alot of intolerance and inability of people to separate the stereotyped thinking when faced with memebers of a particular group, basically applying a stereotype to every memeber of that group, regardless of whether they have that characteristic or not. I also think there is a lot of animosity concerning people in this country thinking that other groups take jobs, benefits etc away from white people. That's my 2p worth.

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yeah i think a lot of it is to do with the media, and peoples prejudices that have been socially and culturally reproduced over time. some may say people like to relate to the familiar and some say its all to do with malevolence.
discrimination basically concering housing, jobs, health, crime etc

also the racial attacks that take place add to the growing tensions

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What in particular has the media to do with racial tensions? Just curious.

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jst like when they associate words such as "black" and "coloured" with criminal activity, thousands of people read it. they dont usually say white.

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Originally posted by TheKingOfGlasgow
What in particular has the media to do with racial tensions? Just curious.

the campaign against the asylum seekers?

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Originally posted by TheKingOfGlasgow
What in particular has the media to do with racial tensions? Just curious.

Look at what The Hate Mail, The Scum and the Sexpress are stirring up....immigrants this immigrants that. They make people un trusting of ethnic minorities.

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Look at what The Hate Mail, The Scum and the Sexpress are stirring up....immigrants this immigrants that. They make people un trusting of ethnic minorities.

Only if the readers are moral simpletons who can't make up their own mind about stuff. Most intelligent people see it for what it is, but most journalism has to have a basis in truth, or at least semi-truth. Immigration is on the increase, and by stating they are opposed to this these tabliods are satisfying a vast majority of people who feel like this as well, thus securing a profit for themselves. I think it's actually to the individual and how they perceive the world around them, and if their world view is misted by the media, it's their own fault, not the media. We don't need to listen to the media.

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Originally posted by Renzokuken
Look at what The Hate Mail, The Scum and the Sexpress

Aladdin has certainly left his mark

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Originally posted by TheKingOfGlasgow
Only if the readers are moral simpletons who can't make up their own mind about stuff.

That would be most people then?

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Depends where you are. I'm currently living in London and there's generally far less racial tension than there was in the 70's and 80's. In fact I think thats probably true in most of the country. Where there is tension, it'll usually be stirred up by the the right wing tabloid media and the likes of the BNP.

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Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper
Aladdin has certainly left his mark

If you throw mud for long enough it tends to stick!

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Originally posted by Blagsta
Depends where you are. I'm currently living in London and there's generally far less racial tension than there was in the 70's and 80's. In fact I think thats probably true in most of the country. Where there is tension, it'll usually be stirred up by the the right wing tabloid media and the likes of the BNP.

Youth gangs seem to go looking for trouble. My sister got involved with one of these and when her friends come round they don't see 'paki' as offensive it's just what you call them; but I personally do find an offensive kind of word (along the same lines as ******). I guess miscommunication leads to racial tension if people are brought up to be racist but don't know they're being racist then people who are offended by the racism won't realise that they don't know it's wrong; if you know what i mean.

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People aren't marching for Enoch as in late 60's but tensions there are.

i don't recall a time when a lad would have been abducted and murdered for his skin-colour as seems to have happened to Kris Donald in Glasgow, the gang being Asian (one alleged member has fled to pakistan, I hear)

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Whereas I recall countless occasions where non-whites have been beaten up, stabbed and murdered by whites.

So where's the immense majority of the racial tension coming from?

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Originally posted by ladymuck
People aren't marching for Enoch as in late 60's but tensions there are.

i don't recall a time when a lad would have been abducted and murdered for his skin-colour as seems to have happened to Kris Donald in Glasgow, the gang being Asian (one alleged member has fled to pakistan, I hear)

*yawn*

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I was wondering how long it would take myself...

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I don't think there is necessarily MORE racial tension now, it's just directed towards different groups. Although there is still racism towards black people, for instance, it's not like in the 50's and 60's when most people arrived in the UK from the West Indies.

They are more "accepted", wheras new immigrants coming in, especially those claiming asylum, and even more so if they are not white, are the new target for racism. That comes from black people too, I have been surprised myself to hear colleagues who are black and mixed race complaining about "dirty asylum seekers". Seems some have short memories.

I think racism is equal from white people and from all other groups of people. Maybe some ethnic minority groups percieve others as being racist so before they get a chance to attack, they go on the defensive, being agressive. I know a lot of young Pakistani guys with big chips on their shoulders, especially as they see that thair faith is under attack.

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Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper
Aladdin has certainly left his mark

what? theya re all horrible excuses for 'newspapers'

I have not read it yet but there seems to be an anti mail piece in the guardian today;)

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Where???

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Originally posted by Aladdin
Where???

its in the comments section, as i said i havnt really read it yet so it may not be

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Yes there is, and a jolly good piece as well!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1178434,00.html

Any Daily Mosley readers here who might care to retort?

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Some of the public may ask for better. But if so, then why do they buy the worst newspapers?

Condescension from the rich Toynbee, champagne socialist par excellence. Probably liked and admired by some here

No detail at all on committee proceedings , just a prolonged smear on Dacre, she cares not for him, surprise, surprise

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Originally posted by ladymuck
People aren't marching for Enoch as in late 60's but tensions there are.

i don't recall a time when a lad would have been abducted and murdered for his skin-colour as seems to have happened to Kris Donald in Glasgow, the gang being Asian (one alleged member has fled to pakistan, I hear)

They have disbanded this theory, and they now think it was to do with his mates girlfriend.

Nice try.

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Do you want to debate the merits of the Mail newspapers ladymuck?

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I don't read the Mail so I'd have no 1st hand info to go on.

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Re: racial tensions

Originally posted by duckemma
hey why do u think there is still growing racial tensions in britain today?
thanks for your views

Because there are still races, and "ethnic origin" questionaries...

(I still have to ask is the spelling ok? I usually guess)

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Originally posted by TheKingOfGlasgow
Only if the readers are moral simpletons who can't make up their own mind about stuff. Most intelligent people see it for what it is,

But most people don't. There is a very large group of people who read the Mail or the Sun, etc, and believe everything that it says, because it's in a newspaper and therefore it must be true.

but most journalism has to have a basis in truth, or at least semi-truth.

There was an interview with Alistair Campbell (I think by the Beeb) in which he refered to a particular Mail article where the journalist had said he was leaving Labour to be a manager of Manchester United. He called up the journalist and said it wasn't true. The journalist replied: "I know, but it's a damn good story, isn't it?". The rules that apply for the broadsheets don't apply to the tabloids.

Immigration is on the increase, and by stating they are opposed to this these tabliods are satisfying a vast majority of people who feel like this as well, thus securing a profit for themselves. I think it's actually to the individual and how they perceive the world around them, and if their world view is misted by the media, it's their own fault, not the media. We don't need to listen to the media. [/B]

We do need to listen to the media. If you didn't listen to or read the news, you would have no idea of the world around you. And whilst some people are intelligent enough to want to pay the extra 40p for a decent newspaper, many are content with the drivel that the tabloids spout. And if there's no one to point out to them the flaws and misconceptions in the tabloids, then they'll carry on believing them.

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By 'the media' I was meaning the tabloids, not the decent newspapers. And there is normally truth in most stories, who's involved, what happened, etc, and the untruth comes from the interpretation or gloss on the story journos put on it. ANd 'we don't need to listen to the media' again was a comment applied to the tabloids. Should've made that bit clear, sorry.

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Apart from the immigrants, I thought the UK was becoming more accepting of skin colours.