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And the invention of the wheel
jus' kidding
So what do you suggest, thumping them? Smacking them?
Why bother when a cattleprod is much less work?
Hehehe
STRONGLY disagree !!!!!!!!!
My Daughter went through a phase of being a little toe rag, so id yell at her or punish her and it did not work, she got worse.
Kids do naughty stuff for attention so even if you shout at them, punish them they are getting the attention they need.
I actually started to ignore my Daughter when she started getting silly and when you ignore someone (especially a child) they hate it.
I do have certain rules and if she is playing me up i will say carry on and you will lose activites next week. She knows that if she continues to misbehave then on saturday or tuesday she will lose one of her after school activities and decides that its probably better to behave. she knows that if i say im going to do something then i ALWAYS follow it through, even if its not a punishment, so like if I say im taking her to McDonalds I take her, I never make promises i cant keep.
So sorry but punishment is not always the way it works. I dont say let kids get away with stuff but they do need guidelines and they do need to feel that they are getting attention, so its better to give them positive attention rather than negative.
The thing is if you are firm with a child and DO what you say you will then they learn that its best to do whats asked of me. I used to bawl and shout at my Daughter and it never worked, I could say NO pocket money and she wasnt bothered so I realised it was best to use something which she would not like, which at the time I beleive was going to Brownies. This night she worked me something rotten, was the child from hell so I said "no Brownies", I kept my word and she missed Brownies. She now knows if I say calm it or you know what's gonna happen she tends to go upstairs and calm down, then comes back down 10/15 mins later back to her normal self.
So yes I do punish to an extent, but what I disagreed with in whowheres post was the bit where "you dont praise good behaviour". Praising good behaviour works because the child feels like they are getting attention. It also builds their self confidence like I say to my Daughter "That story is fantastic, your a brilliant story writer", so she has faith in herself and then she beleives that she is good and she can do things. So my view is positive attention DOES work and you praise good behaviour all the time.
of course you praise and reward good behaviour.
Same with animals really. If you reward them with positive attention, praise and whatnot then they learn to behave.
Wouldn't punishment work negatively because it would make the kid more angry with the world?
You tend to find a lot of unruly kids don't tend to have secure home lives, I mean look at Bowlby's 44 thieves study. These (or most of the) kids never developed healthy attachments with parental figures in their youth. And in their teenage years resorted to petty crime. Perhaps then, primary attachments are a pointer.
There is a very basic principle referred to as "carrot and stick", you should note that it isn't just "stick". There is a reason for that.
I spent three years studying in Liverpool, including one year living in a flat in Toxteth. I have never seen such a dump in my life. The empty house next to ours had been totally gutted by vandals and the gardens were full of rubbish that had just been thrown over the wall. And there were plenty of other houses in a similar state in the street. I've seen fly tipping before, but not in the gardens of empty houses!
And the noise! Further down the street was a house which always seemed to have loud rap music playing through open windows. And this was pretty hard-core stuff with swearing being played at full blast while kids played outside. (Want to know where they get their language from: look no further.)
Maybe you should actually read up on negative and positive reinforcement and psychology. Frankly I find it quite disturbing (but not altogether surprising) that you are a community cop.