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Making the union jack black?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Captain Slog
    The nazi flag had black in it, and they weren't know for their race relations.

    This has nothing to do with improving race relations, and is more likely to have the opposite effect. It is in fact anti-white propaganda designed to stir up trouble.

    What did the nazi flag look like?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MoonRat
    What did the nazi flag look like?

    gop.gif

    ;):D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Slog, red and black are colors associated with strength and might. Today known as facist colorings when it's in a flag.
    The nazi regime didn't use them as an example of good-will towards the blacks and native americans or whatever.

    Basically I know of no flag who's color represent the skin coloring of it's population. Colors often represent values and are symbolic.
    While this issue has been brough up in this forum a year or so ago, it makes me think that it's just one of those issues which are always discussed, goes in waves and dies down again. I really wouldn't "worry" about such a change if I were Brit.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper
    Slog, red and black are colors associated with strength and might. Today known as facist colorings when it's in a flag.

    Not necessarily. Black and red are also anarchist colours.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Not necessarily. Black and red are also anarchist colours.
    Red is also a communist colour.
    The nazi regime didn't use them as an example of good-will towards the blacks and native americans or whatever.
    Er, yes. Thats sort of what I was saying.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MoonRat
    What did the nazi flag look like?
    :eek2: You're kidding me, right? You mean this doesn't look familiar? One of the most recognisable symbols in the world.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely the black parts aren't there to represent a certain race, but rather multiculturalism in general. Given how racist groups like the BNP have hijacked our flag in recent years I don't see this as being such a bad idea. Because certainly at the moment if I went past a house with a union flag flying outside it, my first thought would be that they're probably british nationalists of one sort or another, not really the sort of thing we want to have associated with our national flag.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well if I walked past a house with the union flag that had been vandalised by adding the black lines to it I'd burn the damn thing down.

    By trying to get the union flag changed you're just adding to the BNP's popularity and turning everday people against you.
    Noone with any sanity wants the flag changed, the only people who do are far left labour wankers and black people who look at things too closely.
    This site has got white in the colour scheme, and therefore it is symbolic of the white man's oppression of the black people....
    hmm.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    its not going to happen so stop getting so het up :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Moraji
    at the moment if I went past a house with a union flag flying outside it, my first thought would be that they're probably british nationalists of one sort or another, not really the sort of thing we want to have associated with our national flag.

    What’s in your terms is a British nationalist?

    I’m proud to be British, of my nations history, culture and flag(s)? Am I a British Nationalist? Is this a good or bad thing?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    its not going to happen so stop getting so het up :rolleyes:

    Agreed
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I was actually meaning british nationalist in reference to the british nationalist party (although without mentioning them by name as there are other similar organisations with similar or more extreme views). I wasn't meaning anyone who's proud of their country/culture. I just find it difficult to be proud of a flag that's used by groups like that
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i cant see it happening but if it did i would burn my passport and move somewhere else because i would know that the evil pc meddlers had finally won. the union jack symbolises my country and who i am, a proud englishman.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Moraji
    at the moment if I went past a house with a union flag flying outside it, my first thought would be that they're probably british nationalists of one sort or another, not really the sort of thing we want to have associated with our national flag.

    no thanks to the socialists in this country who brand anything slightly nationalistic as racist and have no sense of national identity whatsoever.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    ^
    I think you'll find that it was the likes of the NF in the 1970's that hijacked the flag and associated it with far right politics.

    But seeing as its people like you, with racist views, that still bang on about the flag, its not an association thats entirely gone away unfortunately. :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I haven't actually yet said anything explicitly racist. My previous comments may have been implicitly racist but that depends on who's judging them. A socialist like yourself is bound to brand them racist without hesitation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by giantno1
    I haven't actually yet said anything explicitly racist. My previous comments may have been implicitly racist but that depends on who's judging them. A socialist like yourself is bound to brand them racist without hesitation.


    Yes you have. You've said plenty of stuff thats explicitly racist.

    Oh, and I think you're making assumptions about my politics. :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Assumptions which appear to be correct judging by everything that you've said in the past. If you consider yourself a centrist then where is your moderate side? I haven't seen it as of yet.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Where did I say I was a centrist? :confused::confused:

    And yes, you have said plenty of explicitly racist things.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Where did I say I was a centrist? :confused::confused:

    And yes, you have said plenty of explicitly racist things.

    So what the hell are you, a classic liberal?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    giant, my friend, I think about 95% of the people in this country, from Tories to Labour to socialists to Lib Dems to Naturalists would brand your comments as racist.

    Talk about 'not fitting into society' and all that...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    'You think' but you dont know because you can't possibly. 95% of people? In the view of a socialist like yourself yes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In the view of everyone.

    Why don't you at least come clean with yourself? You'll feel better for it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by giantno1
    So what the hell are you, a classic liberal?

    I haven't said what I regard my politics as. Keep making assumptions.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    I haven't said what I regard my politics as. Keep making assumptions.

    Yeh and I'm asking you now so that I can stop making 'assumptions'. Where are you on the political spectrum?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I reckon he could be an anarchist, as he posts on Urban 75, a notorious anarchist chat forum a fair bit. If you want a laugh, go a read some of the drivel that gets posted on there, look like they have attracted every low life and loser to the place.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Wrong. Maybe you should pay attention rather than relying on lazy stereotyping.

    Oh no, you're an extreme right winger, your whole philosophy is based on stereotypes. :rolleyes:

    Try using your brain for once.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I take you've been truly chewed up and spat out on U75 already Paul? :D

    Low lifes? You wish mate. You have to tread carefully in there simply because there are a lot of people who know rather more about everything then you and me, in pretty much every subject. But as long as you don't go trolling it's a great site, and a fountain of knowledge at that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    I take you've been truly chewed up and spat out on U75 already Paul? :D

    I think he has...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    this u75 sounds good! could someone post a link to it please?
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