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Women-Are they all Screw-ups?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Here's the story...
Basically, all my previous girlfriends have been manipulative bitches. I know that everyone will say "no they're not...etc" but when I started seeing each of them, they seemed nice, and I genuinely liked them all.

Then, they turn into monsters. Playing mind games, umming and ahing over what they want, not telling me anything. Now, I consider myself(and so do all my female friends) to be a nice guy. I treat them right, give them what they want(if I can figure it out), etc, etc.
Is it that??? Do they fuck me over because I'm a walkover?
Fuck knows. Any advice on finding a girl that thinks like me would be much appreciated, assuming they even exist, of course.
I feel like a fuck up.
Gaaaaaaa!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mind games: I have to say, girls usually win this part, they are really good at it. But it's a game, therefore, if you play it right you will/can have it your way as well. Find some female friends, stick around them for a while and learn from them.

    Girls, well, there are some with great personality, you just need to have faith that one will come by in you life some time.

    I can't tell you when you'll find one, because I honestly don't know. But have faith in the future.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I tell you, all this bloody waiting is...well, frustrating, to say the least. You're right. mind games are a speciality with women. How I would love to be Mel Gibson in "What women want"...
    I'd stand on the rooftops and shout "I've got It!!! I know what they're all about!!" and promptly get shot/stabbed/struck by lightning/spontaneously combusted/flashed out of existence. <IMG alt="image" SRC="eek.gif" border="0">
    Men can't know what the female species holds dear, it's a physical impossibility.
    The first man to figure it out will either cease to exist or turn into a woman.
    Scary shit. <IMG alt="image" SRC="confused.gif" border="0">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blokes are equally cryptic.
    You might want to read 'Why men don't listen and women can't read maps' for a scentific/psychological analysis of the sexes and their differences... but bear in mind that in the end, we aren't different species.
    toodlepip
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've read a few pages of that book while I had nothing to do at a local bookshop. It has some very interesting facts about the difference in male and female.

    I would recommend it as well.

    I just thought I'll add this to make it sound fair. Men and women are very different, but at the end of the day, you can't classify your love one by the sex they are. When you find love, you will then learn to treat your lover as unique as she is. Does this make any sense at all (sorry about my English, I had some complaints about it in another session of the board).

    Chatbox

    [ 22-01-2002: Message edited by: Chatbox ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Felicity:
    <STRONG>Blokes are equally cryptic.
    </STRONG>

    Not entirely... A lot of guys that I know Wear their hearts on their sleeves, and this helps, but I'm not sure I know what you mean by cryptic-It's not like we fuck with eachother's heads like women do. I know some guys do, but they end up being the garage-loving, rudeboy morons that give Essex boys like me and my group of mates a bad name.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The female mind is a complicated one thats for sure. In pretty much all of my previous relationships I have been as caring as possible and have done all I could to please my partner. Whilst initially they thought I was their ideal partner, I believe that in time I was taken for granted and to some degree they lost their appreciation for me. I started to believe that women as a whole would always walk over a man who went out of his way to make them happy.

    However I never wanted to lower myself to the mind games that some people play. If they didn't like me for what I am then they could lump it.

    However there is hope ! I have been in my present relationship for 2 years and am now happily engaged to a woman who treats me in much the same way I treat her.

    Its just a matter of waiting for the right one to come along.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    OH for goodness sake.
    Blokes are so pathetic. Always moaning about 'not understanding women'. If you listened or communicated to the same extent as you moaned, you'd find things out naturally. And no, not all women play these elaborate 'mind-fuck' games you refer to. We, to, have the ability to keep it simple. It is not a 'battle of the sexes', it's just an interaction.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Felicity, you're misunderstanding me. These girls are fine, right up until the whole going out thing has been going on for a while. Then they change. I think slaphappy has it right when they just end up taking you for granted. that's what happens. All we need is to decide what's to be done about these. These women are obviously stupid, and go on to breed with those rudeboys I mentioned earlier, which, in turn, just makes more stupid people. perhaps we could kill off all the morons at birth, and neuter all the other morons of child bearing age-that would make the world a better place.
    (It's also bordering on fascism, but i'm willing to take that chance)
    Anybody got any other ideas?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    badman - i might sound like my granny but 'maybe you just havent met the right person yet' <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG alt="image" SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0">
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Heil, leibling...
    take me now!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I believe that "love" doesn't exist anymore.

    Sure, this is a very pessimistic argument, and who am I to make such a judgement?
    When I say "love", I mean the undying, unconditional kind of love...the stuff from fairytales???
    What I mean is: both men and women find "the one", fall in love, and are completely devoted to that person, until a better one comes along. They always do. Whether or not anything is done about this new person is down to the morals, values and feelings of the person in the relationship (notwithstandng the fact that the new person may also be in a relationship). The person in the relationship changes, whether they include this new person in their life-plan or just a fantasy doesn't matter. They change. and then the relationship is not as it was before, and the love(at least on one part) is gone. That's how many of today's relationships are.
    People get married and then divorced far too easily for my liking. I think most people can put this out of their minds, and think they're going to be different, that their marriage is going to work and last forever. If they didn't, then paranoia and insecurity would take over.
    Don't get me wrong, some relationships and marriages do work, not all of them flawlessly, but that is just because we are all individuals with our own minds.

    God, I feel like such a fucking cynic.

    [ 22-01-2002: Message edited by: Badman ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Felicity:
    <STRONG>Heil, leibling...
    </STRONG>
    Ich bin sein liebling?
    Oh, Danke Frau Felicity!!!

    [ 22-01-2002: Message edited by: Badman ]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Can someone get a German translation on this? I'm lost now...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I used to believe that love couldn't exist...
    and I do think that fairytale love cant. However, as you say, this is just because it is unrealistic. Love is something that should be in a constant state of evolution between partners, or it will go stale and become meaningless. Love does not go, it just matures.
    You aren't a cynic, you are (in this instance) quite perceptive, but I would say that you have a particularly pessimistic veiwpoint here. Change is a positive thing.
    Schreib bald anderen, freunde...
    deine
    Felicity
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Badman:
    <STRONG>
    Ich bin sein liebling?
    Oh, Danke Frau Felicity!!!

    </STRONG>

    Sorry dudes, should have been "dein liebling". Anyway, It translates to:

    "I am your favourite? Thank you Mrs. Felicity!!!"

    Liebling = Favourite

    I don't mind being her favourite, as long as she doesn't play the games....heh heh heh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fraulein, bitte!
    Himmel!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Women huh, relationships huh, German huh.

    My pearls of wisdom on women.

    Achtung minefield!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I trust that your 'huh's' are imbued with wisdom and worldly experience that none of us kiddiwinks could even dare to contemplate. C'mon.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Felicity:
    <STRONG>Love is something that should be in a constant state of evolution between partners, or it will go stale and become meaningless. Love does not go, it just matures.
    </STRONG>

    You are, of course, totally right. I think that I probably couldn't have put it better. You are officially off the 'moron' list, and will not be terminated or neutered. As soon as Chatbox gets himself a german dictionary, he can come off it too. Till then, there's only two of us. Or of course until anyone else proves themselves.

    heh heh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what this means for the future of humankind, I dread to think...
    rather small genetic pool, ne cest pas?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Marmite:
    <STRONG>Women huh, relationships huh, German huh.

    My pearls of wisdom on women.

    Achtung minefield!!!</STRONG>

    Minefields? You ain't wrong. Felicity has a good point though. The "Huh's" mean what, exactly?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Felicity:
    <STRONG>
    rather small genetic pool, ne cest pas?</STRONG>

    en effet, mademoiselle.

    I have appointed myself Lifeguard of the human gene pool, and I'll just let every moron drown.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Marmite is from 'the boy's own' school of german language... orginated late 50's early 60's in the guise of pre-pubescent comics.
    therefore:
    Achtung! Minefield: Danger, minefield
    Hande Hoch!: Hands up!
    Englander Schweinhunde!: English Pig-dog
    Gott in Himmel mitt Engeln: God in heaven with his angels
    ...would be the most commonly used phrases. They're still good fun to shout loudly with an atrocious accent though. (Do I get back on the list for that?)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    No, you just proved you're even less of a moron. Quite an intelligent young lady, in fact.
    I think i'll pull a few more people off it, just because they haven't pissed me off in a while. Have to be careful though. I don't want them pissing in the gene pool.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Question... honey nut or unadulterated?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Felicity:
    <STRONG>Question... honey nut or unadulterated?</STRONG>

    Okay, If you are actually talking about cornflakes, (if I'm mistaken, then I have no clue as to what you're on about)
    then it depends. unadulterated only go with ice cold milk. If the milk is warm, then it's honey nut.

    And you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Honeynut. Most definitely. Currently I'm doing a psychopharmacology experiment where I get free honeynut dosage every morning. Even if they weren't paying me, I'd still get up at 7:00 just for that. Freaky, but true. Did you know that the smell of cooking bacon aparently contains chemicals that incite a pleasure/occasionally sexual arousal response?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok, So does that mean
    a) I should think of (and use?) food during sex?

    b) Pigs are sexy?...naaaaah.

    c) Bacon triggers the same pleasure receptors in the brain as sexual stimulation, and therefore increases, or heightens the good taste of bacon??

    I think i'm beginning to like you, kid.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Badman:
    Minefields? You ain't wrong. Felicity has a good point though. The "Huh's" mean what, exactly?

    Once bitten, twice shy and all that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'd have to say C... after all, what do most people cite as the main reason they won't become vegitarian? Actually, with most veggies, I've found they usually succumb to crispy aromatic duck. (must stop now as in danger of electrocuting self...)
    ...A looks fairly likely also. However, using bacon during sex? difficult. and messy.
    HAve you been to the cynic sanctuary?
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