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Micheal Jackson

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Do you think he's guilty or not?

I think he's not guilty, he seems just a caring father for his children and wants to give others a better chance at living and wants to help people out, look at all the work he done for people and all some want to do is get his money.

There's still something creepy about him having young boys staying in the same bed as him, who knows if he done it or not.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    why do you have you fathers face as your avatar
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Was that really necessary Turlough?:yeees:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Already have topic on this
    http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56598

    £10 says turlough gets banned by xmas
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I used to love michael Jackson, went to see his dangerous tour at wembley when i was a wee lass, and i still think he's an extremely talented man in his own right.

    the thing that really makes me question his innocence is the pay out he made the last time he was getting done for child molestation. I think that Michael Jackson, this man who is very proud of his innocence and knows when he is right or not, would not have given in so easily if he was innocent. I believe him to be the sort of man to fight to prove he hadnt done anything wrong. I dont think he is the sort of guy to pay a hell of a lot of his hard earned cash out for something that he says he didnt do.

    but then im the sort of person to also wait until someone has been found guilty or not until I make up my mind. However if he pays a cash sum out again this time, i'll have made up my mind.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by dantheman
    £10 says turlough gets banned by xmas

    £20
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, did you hear that Johnny Cochran is going to defend Jacko. He got OJ off with a rhyme, If the glove don’t fit, you must acquit. Well, this time he has a new one, If his name's not Sylvester, he's not a molester. That'll work.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    anyone who saw that program abotu Jacko the other month would have realised why they call him 'wacko jacko'.

    A man who is over 30 and freely and openly admits he enjoys and shares his bed with kids, a man who invites kids to his house to have sleepovers, a man who has been accused of this before and used a big pay off and a fancy team of lawyers to intimidate the boys family to stop it going to court.......

    child molester???

    Never:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yes there is many signs that point in the wrong way for him, but he was never actually proved gulity and other children that have stayed at the house came forward and said he never abused them.

    Plus the mother of this 'victim' now threatened before to sue jackson and did receive a payout from a shopping outlet somewhere.
    This family all seems a bit too fishy, just after his money, i do think so.

    Also,it happened 3 months ago, why didn't he accusations as soon as it took place?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    From what I've been reading, Michael Jackson fits the pedophile profile. He's in his forties and hangs around young kids, especially boys. There's a bedroom for the kids that can only be reached from his bedroom.

    I don't pay that much attention to lawsuits against rich, but there was one in the early 90's and, as soon as a settlement was reached, the family refused to testify. That caused California to change it's laws so that can't happen again.

    It needs looking into. Something is not right.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Where Are the Parents?

    First up—I should inform you I am a licensed sexual offender specialist.( One of my many accomplishments. Yes—I am self-aggrandizing a bit.)

    Before we condemn Michael Jackson we must assume some responsibility for the monster we created. He did not have a chance at a normal life as a teenager and as an adult we made sure he could not even go to church without being swarmed by fans.

    His whole life has been filled with huge success and his talent has made many straphangers millionaires many times over. Michael’s whole life has been filled with individuals who come on as friends but their intent is to use him.

    He has learned not to trust adults and he has placed his trust in the innocence of children, which looks very unusual to adults watching him.

    As for children sleeping in bed with him—it does not bode well for him, but to classify him based on that fact alone is unfair. There are two schools of thought concerning children sleeping in an adult’s bed; One that the adult bed is a sexual place and therefore is off limits to children and the second position is the adult bed is a secure place in a child’s eyes and therefore a safe place, especially at night or during a storm. I support the second position in the face of the whole mental health community in the USA, of which I hold very little respect. If we assume the first position that the adult bed is a sexual place and off limits to children then we must assume that everywhere else adults have sex should be off limits to children and what a mess that would make! (Floors, couches, tables, bathrooms, woods, beaches, etc.) We would not be able to be anywhere with our kids in tow!

    Every successful parent I know of has allowed their children to sleep with them at least on occasion and BOTH the child and the parent benefited for the bonding.

    The current family accusing Jackson has their own history of scams and fraud against businesses and individuals. They sued and won a $135,000 law suit against a shopping center in California under very questionable circumstances.

    Did Jackson molest their son? A court of law needs to investigate that—but my problem with this whole Jackson issue is where were the parents of the children who were sleeping with Jackson—especially after the 1992 case?

    Methinks they ALLOWED their children to sleep with him HOPING he would molest them so they could sue.

    Very sick, sick adults in my opinion preying on a sick man.

    So whoa re the REAL bad guys? (Answer: The parents of the children concerned!)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There is a big difference between kids sleeping in their parents bed during a storm and inviting other peoples children to your theme park and having them staying over at your house and in your bed. Fact is whether he has been molesting these kids or not its just plain wrong and should have been stopped long ago.

    You have to question the parents, did they meet Jackson and think he was a safe man to allow their kids to be around? Did they go into it with the intention of out of court settelements and launching lawsuits? If the latter is true then its the parents who should find themselves in court.

    I wouldn't let my kids anywhere near someone I didn't completely trust, as much as I could anyway. I certainly wouldn't let them be alone with a weirdo like Jackson.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by badabing
    the thing that really makes me question his innocence is the pay out he made the last time he was getting done for child molestation. I think that Michael Jackson, this man who is very proud of his innocence and knows when he is right or not, would not have given in so easily if he was innocent. I believe him to be the sort of man to fight to prove he hadnt done anything wrong. I dont think he is the sort of guy to pay a hell of a lot of his hard earned cash out for something that he says he didnt do.

    You can spin that round though- if the boy really WAS abused, surely the parents would have pursued Jackson through the courts rather than through the tabloid press.

    He paid out because they were talking about his private life, not because of the allegations. Remember no charges, either criminal or civil, were EVER brought.

    As for the issue of children sleeping in his room, I agree, it is not desirable and perhaps it should be stopped. But Jackson invites hundreds of impoverished children a year to his theme park, free of charge, so its hard where to draw the line. Personally Im of the opinion that alls well that ends well. I dont think he hurts children, intentionally or otherwise, so I dont think there is a problem.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you would let your kids stay over then Kermit?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by RWB
    you would let your kids stay over then Kermit?

    I would let them visit his theme park, sure. I wouldnt want them to sleep in his bed because I find the idea very distasteful, and I would question any parent who doesnt find the idea distasteful, but I dont think that they would come to any harm.

    A freak makes a paedo not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well thats fair enough i suppose but I wouldnt let my kids within miles of him.

    Its not just the accusations and the obvious he seems to have with sleeping with kids, its the other stuff like hanging babys off balconys etc that makes me wary of him, hes just a wacko and probably should be locked up.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by RWB
    hes just a wacko and probably should be locked up.

    He is mentally disturbed, I dont think anyone disputes that.

    But he still hasnt comitted a crime, so why should he be locked up? Hes barmy, but I think hes harmless so thered be no way to section him.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by dantheman
    Already have topic on this
    http://vbulletin.thesite.org.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56598

    £10 says turlough gets banned by xmas

    Which Christmas?;)

    If it is Christmas thats still seven months too late.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Which Christmas?;)

    If it is Christmas thats still seven months too late.

    :eek: i thought i was well behaved in this site
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: Where Are the Parents?
    Originally posted by OldDog


    Every successful parent I know of has allowed their children to sleep with them at least on occasion and BOTH the child and the parent benefited for the bonding.

    Methinks they ALLOWED their children to sleep with him HOPING he would molest them so they could sue.

    firstly parents do have their own children sleeping with them sometimes but any normal, average parent would not allow an unrelated child to sleep with them.

    I do not think any parent could let their child stay over hoping he would molest their child, thats just sick tbh.

    Yes its the parents fault, why they allow them to sleep with his past reputation is beyond me.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with a lot of what you say, OldDog, but not all.

    Before we condemn Michael Jackson we must assume some responsibility for the monster we created. He did not have a chance at a normal life as a teenager and as an adult we made sure he could not even go to church without being swarmed by fans.
    He didn't have a normal life, but that was his parent's fault and not ours. As far as being swarmed by fans, that is part of being an entertainer. If he didn't want that, he should do something else.

    He has learned not to trust adults and he has placed his trust in the innocence of children, which looks very unusual to adults watching him.
    I doubt that's the reason he would be a pedophile (if he is). Usually they are former victims who turned into predators. When they cross that line, I have no sympathy for them.

    I don't know any men in their forties who go around sleeping with young children. That is unnatural. Parents talking a child into their beds when they are scared is a completely different matter and there is no comparison.

    Methinks they ALLOWED their children to sleep with him HOPING he would molest them so they could sue.
    I wonder about that too. We had a case where I live where a crack addict mother let her dealer molest her children in return for drugs so it wouldn't surprise me if parents would do this.

    Very sick, sick adults in my opinion preying on a sick man.
    I agree that the parents are sick. As for Jackson, he is no victim in this if it is true....he is a predator.
    So whoa re the REAL bad guys?
    The parents and Jackson.
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