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IDS quickly....
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I can't believe how during the last few weeks have been the one time that the Conservative party have been looking remotely coherent and competent and so they chuck out the leader.
what. i just dont get it!!
what. i just dont get it!!
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That IDS should quit...
The worst possible news for Labour, this is. Then again, if the Tories are so supremely imbecile as to elect Howard as the new leader, Tony Blair can safely look forward to another full term.
If IDS doesn't manage to survive this Oliver Letwin should become the next leader.
I firmly believe that a different leader will make no difference, the Tories have no chance of wining because their policies and their entire philosophy as a party is wrong for winning an election....
The fact that Letwin is seen as one of the best possible candidates highlights the problem considering his recent gibberish about state education and asylum seekers.........
Some people say that at least the Tories don't pretend to be something they're not, unlike New 'Labour'. That's a very good point, and if this was a Tory party where common sense and more moderate policies and politicians prevailed- people like Ken Clarke; he's no angel but certainly better than anything else on offer- then a lot of people would consider voting for them. But this is a Tory party dominated and controlled by xenophobic, war-supporting, US ass-licking, racist, anti-NHS, public service destroying, tax-cutting , EU-hating bigots.
If the Lib Dems had a real chance of winning they would be ideal. There might be on principle a right-of-centre party but in many issues are now to the left of New 'Labour'. But chances are that as usual they will get nowhere near power. So what is there to do? Do we vote with our hearts to whatever tickles one's fancy (Lib Dems, Socialist Workers Party, the Greens) and let Tony fight the Tories for government? Or do we vote tactically to at least guarantee that the lesser of two evils gets in?
Like Nasty Nick would say, 'you live by the sword, you die by the sword'.
Perhaps IDS should note that at least Major had the balls to call it himself.
Everyone is tipping Howard as the favourite. Davies will probably come forward, as well as Letwin and even Clarke and Ann Widdecombe (!). I somehow feel the members might go for Letwin or Davies, if either of them make it to the 'final'.
All in all, a very intersting spectacle.
people keep talking about tory policies ...what fucking policies?
who ever takes the place of IDS can rest assured they will be facing the same leadership battle themselves a little further down the road. maybe it should become an anual event at tory HQ.
Great news for Tony Blair.
How much more to the right can the Tories get? From Major to Hague, then to IDS, and now possibly Howard. A man synonimous with free-market capitalism, water privatisation and Margaret Thatcher...
How long before they ask Norman Tebbit to be their next leader?
An old Etonion as a potentiol PM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
That'll be popular with the voters...:rolleyes:
OOOOOH! That's a good idea! and then by the time to elect a new leader comes, it will be election time and the Tories will stand no chance!
Oooh, you're intelligent!
So, now it looks like we will have a Dark Lord of the Sith as leader of the opposition. Not only does the man gives me the creeps, just to look at him, but I've always found him to be evasive - more so than any other politician I've seen.
Certainly I remember his interview with Paxman about the sacking of the Prisons Lead -
Paxman: "Yes or no, did you sack him"
Howard: "Well, blah blah blah"
Added to that is some comments he hade made locally about some of the services I am involved him. He suggested that people were being made to wait in Ambulances for lengthy period outside a local hospital. These showed him to be amazingly ill-informed because it was quite obviously not happenning. He was just jumping on the bandwagon (surely not? The tories never do that, do they?) which followed the Panorma programme where that was happening in Oxford.
But it got him into the media, gave him a chance to criticise the NHS and of course added to the public perceptions about poor service.
To be honest, if his leadership quest is successful you can guarantee that I will not be voting Tory at the next election.
Still, no loss for them because I didn't last time either!
You are amusingly pathetic.
Whereas you're just plain old pathetic?
For somone who has only posted 4 times, you are becoming quite obnoxious. Would you mind reading the Good Manners Guide and applying its principles, before you find yourself banned? Thanks.
Who are you?
Can nobody see that Blair is the biggest tory prime minister since Thatcher?
Blair will only be voted out when his own party turns on him, which they will.
Also, do you think a strong, if some what Nazi leader might actualy do well at the moment, given that crime is rising totaly out of control and the streets are filled with drug fueled crazy kid snatching killers.
Indeed, Blair couldn't get much more right wing without getting a Tory party membership. Perhaps that's why the Tories have moved to the right as well... because they've been displaced.
...and if we think tony is right wing god help us should mr howard
medicated eyes get into power with that shifty lot!
And 'Drol Edyortnuh', well I cant really even begin to understand what you are doing here.