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"You can stick your fuckin England up your arse"
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And I'd say more successful as well. At the end of the day, go and compare the number of European Cup winners against the number of World Cup winners. The former is rather more common mate. Even Forest had a better record than United until 3 year ago...
They're followed mostly by a complete bunch of ****s, backed by southern shandy drinkers. They're two faced bastards, how can we have any respect for them after the treatment Beckham recieved? He may forget, we don't. What about the way the FA fuck us over all the time?
"MANCHESTER LA LA LA MANCHESTER LA LA LA"
You could also say how could anyone have any respect for Man U and their fans when they take so much pride in singing anti-England songs (their own county!!). Something that, correct me if I'm wrong, has been happening long before 1998.
No mate, the soul of this club is northern and working class. The badge may have been butchered but it still retains the ship. We've had Cockney Reds for years, I believe at one stage they were held in high regard. Football was rebranded after Euro 96, you've got personal experience of the way some people have no respect for tradition. Look at away support for all clubs real supporters. Uniteds is the best in the country FACT.
As United supporters we don't care what other teams support think about us. We don't need to be patted on the back like geordies, city, celtic. We don't give a wiggle and we don't give a wank!
I think there has always been a slightly anti england attitude among United fans, its the same with the scousers.
Don't forget the reaction from fans when we sing these songs is hilarious. Its always the same at Midlands, London clubs, I'll let you make your own conclusions about that.
And I agree that there seems to be a different atmosphere altogether at England games. The great majority go there to watch the game but there is something else to it...
The last time I went to watch England we stopped for a pint at the Globe (off Baker St. in London, and a traditional stop before catching the tube to Wembley) and there were some really nasty lowlifes in there...
ENGLISH AND DAMN PROUD
At Euro 2002 a section of ENgland "fans" were chanting about his wife and child.
I would love to know what you think he did which justified that?
Fair enough his wife and child is a bit overboard but unless it was death threats (which I doubt) it is just a bit of banter.
What I was basically saying is Godscop is ENGLISH and should be proud to be english. I know I am english and I'm damn proud of it. And you should follow your country throughout Football and all sports, and also through political shit, wars etc.. Godscop would probably fight against England in a war by the sounds of it.
Really? Banter. I'm sure that you would be happy to hear several hundred/thousand people chanting something offensive about you family. Especially when they are supposed to be on your side.
Tell me, how was that in support of England?
And yet you seem to accept offensive chants at players representing your country. So much for support.
Would you also suggest that it was acceptable to "monkey chant" when Heskey plays? After all "it's just banter"...
Yep and that means total support, thick and thin. Not abusing someone just because he plays club football for United or because he happen to have a famous wife.
I understand why Godscop feel like he does. I don't necessarily agree with all sentiments, but I understand why he has this dislike of the National team and those who follow them...
Maybe they should have known how to take a penalty. The old one about how 'he cost England the world cup' is nonsense. I didn't see Argentina giving up before he was sent off, did you?
The chants were somewhere along the lines of 'I hope your kid gets cancer'. Not the type of banter we want to be seen aimed at our own players eh?
I am proud to be English, I'm not proud to associated with the wankers the English football team attracts. Fact is I will raise a smile if Turkey win on saturday, they deserve it. No doubt if they qualify some more English 'patriots' will goto Protugal and rip the place to bits. Historically by the way, England and Portugal have had very good relations, one of the very few countrys in the world where we can travel to without being labelled 'English Pig'.
What about when United play in Europe? Our fans spend most of the time telling everyone they're not English, they're Manchester United to avoid a batoning.
English and proud
Beat their rivals 5-1 years ago and still go on about it.
Fans exaggerate their own importance.
Exaggerated ability of the team.
Don't have their own stadium.
Delusions about what they're going to win.
'World class' players Owen/Anelka.
Not won anything since 66/76.
Beating Germany 5-1 is amazing and will be remembered in my eyes all my life. It is an achievement. Why not go on about it. Were you old enough to understand football then or was your mum still wiping your shitty arse. I remember it like it was yesterday and it was a fucking amazing game and achievement by the English team.
Are you English or not?
Delusions about what they're going to win? Man U are winning the treble every year but do they, do they fuck.
So Owens not world class? Oh ye forgot, all the countries try man to man mark him cos he's shit :rolleyes:
Have you being putting overtime in at comedian college because some of the shit you come out with is hilarious Give your tutor a pat on the back from me, your going to be doing stand-up in no time.
Yes it was a good result, but who reached the final? Germany. Who thought they were going to win it? England.
I don't think United are going to win the treble every year, when have I said that?
Can remember in the not so distant pass Mr.Ferguson saying they were going to get the treble and they won fuck all
If you bet Real Madrid 5-1 you wouldn't stop going on about it even if they got to the final and you didn't.
Are you a foreigner?? Or just a sad little kid who thinks he's big on net cos he's just got his first pleb.
If we had beaten Real Madrid 5-1 two years ago i don't think I'd mention it considering they won the 2002 European Cup and knocked us out in 2003.
Your a little kid, your mum holds your hand........deary me.
And it's all coming out now, thats it, feel better?
Crap. He let himslef down and he lets his team down - unless you are suggesting that England are a one man team.
Perhaps you should also look to two of the penalty takers who missed, or the manager's tactics... or Shearer fouling the keeper causing Campbell's "goal" to be disallowed. Perhaps we could also look at the missed chances, or the foul which led to their equaliser. We could also look to the referee who gave two dodgy penalties... So many things affect the outcome of a match, to scapegoat one of them - because of the level of his fame - is beyond contempt.
But you condone them. That's as bad if not worse.
Woah, hang on. This isn't a one off, it's just what we have been focussing on. There are numerous occasions when United players have been abused, not for their performance but for their club allegiance.
Support means just that, get behnid the team not on their backs.
So am I. Which is why I won't defend morons who abuse our own team.
Because of his level of fame?? Are you joking. He'd hardly played for England at the time and was still pretty much a nobody. He was no where near as famous as he is now, not by a long way. :eek: :eek:
I'm on here because the thread says "stick your fuckin England up your arse" and I'm defending England and your arguing against me and then you say that. Bit of a contradiction me thinks.
I don't and will never abuse any England player whilst in an England shirt (apart from the Nevilles because thay are not worthy of the shirt). There are nobheads who will but that doesn't mean all the scum fans should be anti-england. Get a grip and support your country.
English and proud :thumb:
Well at the time he had just started a relationship with with Posh Spice and was being billed as the next big thing and never out of the papers (whats changed?).
The media in this country use the same blueprint for everything. The majority of the population do and think what the papers tell them.
1)Build them up
2)Knock them down
3)Return to step 1
Its intresting that you can't see my problem with England. For example how can I be shouting abuse at the scouse **** Owen one weekend, and jumping up and down cheering him on the weekend after like he's my favourite player. Makes no sense.
Its the same with the fans, they hate United, and me as a United fan, we are not on the same side.
Like I've said before I hate Man U as you know but when the likes of Scholes, Butt, Ferdinand, Beckham (when he was Man U) get on the pitch in an England shirt I cheer for them. They are not Manchester players when they are playing for England, they are England players.
Take it easy on that Crack will you Godscop, I'm beginning to get worried.
And the difference is what, exactly?
Do you think that he wanted to get sent off? Do you think he was thinking about consequences when he did something stupid?
Do you think that Batty or Ince thought about the consequences of taking penalties when neither has ever taken one before, at any time?
Sorry? Have I misread something?
"Star" players for the biggest club in the country at the time. Having a relationship with one of the biggest stars in the world at the time. He was already on the front page of most newspapers.
Oh, and he had also played in every England match in qualifying. The only player to have done so.
I wasn;t suggesting that you were one of the morons in question.
I was merely pointing out that you have defended them... surely you can see a contradiction in that yourself. You defend people who abuse your national representatives. Yet you claim to also support the team... hmmm...
When they are on the pitch, wearing the shirt, they are representing the country. You should be supporting them.
This is precisely what I am talking about.
You may not agree with their selection, just as I would always put Gary Neville ahead of Mills. In fact I still can't see who you would pick instead of G Nev. - bearing in mind that he is one of the most experienced players we have. Just how many players (alive or dead) have made as many appearances in the Champions League.
As for Phil, I agree that there are players who would come in front of him, and they do. He doesn;t often get picked ahead of his rivals.
I do, and will. And I will support any of the players wearing the shirt - even Heskey.
Good call, its just a matter of time before he gets sent off for England because hes very aggressive.
Club comes first, the country comes a very slow last when it comes to football. For me it does revolve around United. When an international week is coming up the first thing I think of is the injuries our players normally come back with. If Scholes gets injured in Turkey while helping England qualify I won't think 'ah well Scholes is injured but at least we've qualified'.
Doesn't work like that.
No he can't have thought of the consequences else he wouldn't have done it. He's learnt from his mistake and he is a better player and a bigger man for it. Yes, slight contradiction, just like your sticking up for Godscop when he's done nothing but abuse the national team. I do, but the constant mistakes and shitness gets to me, understandable because I want England to win. Good point about the selection but I don't rate him as a player, that is my opinion.
It does work like that. Do you think he wants to play for England? Of course he does it is every players dream to play for his country and you should be supporting through it, not saying "stick your fuckin england up your arse" because sure as dammit he won't be thinking that.
Country should always come first, as you play with pride for your country and not so much so for clubs- although you can come to love your club also. Even if club may be better than country-
You cant have an open debate with you as your so one track minded, good thing your acouch potato fan and anot a player!