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Child Abuse

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
An example of child abuse in Arizona

After studying this in sociology recently it got me thinking. How could anyone do such a thing where they keep their children confined to one room for an indefinite amount of time, and seriously scar their lives. Remeber reading on study about a girl who only saw her parent(s) for 5 minutes a day for 11+ years only to be given a bit of food and water, while being chained to the same place. When she was eventually found after suffering over 11 years of these conditions, she couldn't stand erect, walk, talk and described as "unsocialised, primitve, hardly human."

After time in a rehabilitation ward, she learnt to eat quite normally, and learnt the vocabulary of a three year old but never progressed further. She also masturbated constantly, in all situations and refused to stop.

She only escaped because her mother ran away from the house with her.

Surely the parent(s) knew they were going to destroy her life in some form or another, is it that hard to put someone up for adoption if you know you're not going to be able to handle it?

It seriously does make you wonder, how the fuck can someone do such a thing? Surely any half-decent person it'd eat away at their mind, but these people seem to have kept them in dire conditions for many numbers of years. What is the world coming to..?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I cannot understand why in this day and age people still abuse children. There is NO excuse at all.
    Keeping kids in a cage, I just cannot understand their mentality. Why could they not get help from services if they couldnt cope with the kids. Id rather kids get put into care than live like that.

    Its no shame to ask for help but why do some people feel that they can't ask for help ? What some kids go through when they are kids has to scar them for life.

    Can you imagine what that house must have smelt like......urgh it doesn't bear thinking about. Also feeding them two boys through a hole............poor kids :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i have two adopted cousins who were taken away from an abusive/neglectful mother at the ages of 6 and 9. some of the things she did to them were appalling. she had 5 children, all were taken away after the social services after they found out what was happening.

    the oldest two were adopted by my aunt and uncle, the nicest people you will ever meet. they have treated them with just the right balance of love and discipline, and all the understanding they will ever need.

    and yet, 9 years down the line, the girl is said to be exactly the same as her mother. she has run away, disowned my family, met back up with her natural mother (who didn't want to know her) and lives in squalor with her (much older) jailbird boyfriend, and a kitten who she abuses and neglects. the cycle has started again.

    whether the girl is scarred from her experiences, or this is just her personality, we don't know.

    although her youngest sister, who was taken away from the mother at birth, is causing all sorts of problems for her adoptive family, which leads us to think that maybe she just has 'bad genes', if there is such a thing...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kaffrin did the youngest girl know she was adopted at birth ? I think thats a factor worth looking at. Maybe she felt not wanted or something like that.

    I personally dont beleive its in the genes because you hear so many families who have just one youngster who goes off the rails.

    I think the elder of the could have been scarred from her past. Kids dont forget things. Our Becks can remember things like when she was 2, she will say can you remember when I burried you at the seaside and Daddy had to feed you the chockie biscuit. Well that was when we were on holiday, so she remembers like stuff from 6 years ago.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: Child Abuse
    Originally posted by z0ma
    An example of child abuse in Arizona

    After studying this in sociology recently it got me thinking. How could anyone do such a thing where they keep their children confined to one room for an indefinite amount of time, and seriously scar their lives. Remeber reading on study about a girl who only saw her parent(s) for 5 minutes a day for 11+ years only to be given a bit of food and water, while being chained to the same place. When she was eventually found after suffering over 11 years of these conditions, she couldn't stand erect, walk, talk and described as "unsocialised, primitve, hardly human."

    After time in a rehabilitation ward, she learnt to eat quite normally, and learnt the vocabulary of a three year old but never progressed further. She also masturbated constantly, in all situations and refused to stop.

    She only escaped because her mother ran away from the house with her.

    Surely the parent(s) knew they were going to destroy her life in some form or another, is it that hard to put someone up for adoption if you know you're not going to be able to handle it?

    It seriously does make you wonder, how the fuck can someone do such a thing? Surely any half-decent person it'd eat away at their mind, but these people seem to have kept them in dire conditions for many numbers of years. What is the world coming to..?

    Are you talking about the case of Genie here? If so, we studied it in psychology, the youth being found in her early teens. They were unusre whether she was brain-damaged at birth or whether being kept in the conditions she was, strapped to a toilet for weeks on end and fed scraps by her father, was said to blame for what seemed to be serious mental impairment.

    After a few months of treatment Genie seemed to be able to pick up a few words or sign language and I don't think her mother was charged for it... for some reason.

    Anyway, in my opinion I believe that child abusers adhere to what is known as 'Learned Behaviour'... in that they re-enact what other people did in their own childhood. For example on the harsher scale, a paedophile may have been abused as a child in that manner... or the child of a depressed parent may show signs of depression but may not have the illness.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Theres currently a healthcare project being setup to protect children from child abuse where suspected cases can be investigated and all healthcare encounters looked up. The information is all there but the methods of sharing that data are not yet inplace

    A Child is suspect of child abuse, the data sharing will allow social services to see how many visits to GP's/Hospital there have been and what the injuries were. Currently this is a paperbased system and a mass of unorganised data.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BeckyBoo
    Kaffrin did the youngest girl know she was adopted at birth ? I think thats a factor worth looking at. Maybe she felt not wanted or something like that.

    no. she was adopted into a family seperate from all the other children, because they all remembered, to some degree, and they didn't want them to tell the youngest girl as they thought it would be difficult to deal with. she would be about 9 now, and i don't think they planned to tell her she was adopted until she was older.

    the four oldest meet up a lot - the 2 sets of parents get on well, but the youngest has no contact with them, aside from the social services passing on messages of how she's getting on.
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