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Operation Northwoods: An American conspiracy
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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html
more interesting articles on this, go to google and search under Operation Northwoods
more interesting articles on this, go to google and search under Operation Northwoods
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Now that the Cold War has ended, the US has no place in maintaining sanctions against Cuba.
Undoubtedly some Iraqi (or perchance Iranian) culprit(s) will be named whilst our military or CIA boys gloat over the chaos they caused the international community, further strengthening the case for continued occupation.
I hadn't heard of Howard Dean. What a breath of fresh air! Is he independant from the other parties and what are his chances of winning? Is he well known in the States?
He wasnt one of the Democratic frontrunners when he first announced his bid, but he's steadily made the press more and more and is indeed one of four or even three with the best chance of getting the nomination.
Nothing however is certain right now but I will say that if either Gephardt or Lieberman win the Democratic nomination I WILL vote for an independent candidate, however wasted that vote might be. Those two are simply Bush in Dems clothing and will demonstrate that Washington has learned nothing from the wrongheaded policies of Bush and co.
the two things that convince me that it was americans who attacked new york on 9/11 are ...the fact that the pakistani inteligence services were talking on bbc raDio 4 about american plans to invade afghanistan, to get their pipeline under the pretext of ousting the taliban ...months before new york was attacked, proving that all they needed was to drum up public support.
secondly ...if you can get to watch the news footage of the plane crashing into the second tower there is clearly an explosion on one floor that looks exactly like demolition charges. one whole floor seems to be taken out from explosives within.
the biggest bunch of murderous thieves in history is currently running america ...of that i have no doubt.
It would have to be pretty accurate flying by a novice pilot to hit the building in just the right spot to get away with an explosive charge going virtually undetected.
And if you were to say that there may have been explosive charges over more floors to cover the probability that the pilot would miss the explosive-rigged floor then there would have been quite a firework show as these would have gone off later due to the intense heat.
And if they didn't, the fireman/builders etc that cleared up the mess afterwards would have found obvious evidence of an explosion during the cleanup operation .... or were the good people of New York also involved?
As for the wreckage, perhaps you are unaware of this fact, but almost immediately after the collapse there were federal agents all over the sight with firefighters controlling the scene completely.
The wreckage itself was quarantined and upon cleanup was sold to a scrap concern in South East Asia to eliminate the evidence.
Moreover, the recording of NY firefighters remote communications throughout the buildings was also seized by FEMA (the agency overseeing the operations) and sealed. Prior to this seizure, several firefighters aknowledged that there was no inferno going on in the upper floors sufficient to melt the supporting girders as the coverstory claimed. Lots of smoke from burning fuel doused by internal sprinkler systems, but no raging blaze.
Do not overestimate how many people had to be involved if this was in fact planned and executed by US security agencies, it isnt some ridiculous number as you might wish to presume in order to dismiss what is far more plausible than the bogus story we've long been fed.
Most witnesses and, in fact, civilian workers at the sight following the destruction would have been (and indeed were) too traumatised with shock to take stock of every detail one would wish to examine in order to determine the causal links of the collapse of both buildings.
One fact that undermines the coverstory (amongst numerous others) is that the second building hit collapsed prior to the first which (if the coverstory were true) was "burning" for over an hour by the time the second tower fell (after "burning" for less than an hour itself).
Whats more, seismologists recorded underground shockwaves of a magnitude far greater and far more localised to that city block than any normal tectonic shifts or the impacts of the planes themselves could have caused. The shocks were also aknowledged by at least one seismology watchstation as being comensurate with man -made underground detonations.
The fact that feds were present to put a clamp on the scene within minutes of the collapse speaks volumes, especially when its also now known that the fighter squadrons within range of the flight paths of the 4 planes waited almost an hour from the first notification from Air Traffic Control that 4 planes were off course and not responding to hails.
According to FAA and US Air defence guidelines, fighters are to be immediately launched when such conditions apply to any civilian flight, they were purposely not launched so that response times could be muddied in later testimony thus adding to the plausible deniability factor. Had they been launched, the fighters would have easily intercepted all 4 planes well before any of them reached their targets.
No, my friend, perhaps you dont WANT to believe that such is possible, but then you fail to comprehend just what extent the current government and its dependents (agencies and senior individuals now enjoying more power and conrtol over the country than any previous government) will go to to maintain their hold on power and the massive payoffs that is providing to the MIC and those industries most closely linked with this admin.
Of course, you are free to believe the coverstory put forward by those now exposed as liars many times over, an increasing number do not. Until their is a legitimate public enquiry with full authority to examine all records from whatever agency is required to obtain full transparency, we wont know conclusively.
For ongoing research, I once again refer people to this excellent and labouriously compiled public investigation site...
http://www.911pi.com/investigations_overview.htm
And then, if what you say IS true ... what can we do? If they can keep the voices out now, they can keep the voices out all of the time so essentially and to put it bluntly, we're all f*cked!
People who have witnessed things can be told that they were under great duress or that they mistook something for that which it wasnt since they would not be coming with proof in hand to substantiate their claims. The powers that be (or at least those which were directly involved in the act) know this and use it to their advantage to maintain plausible deniability. That prinicple is one of the foremost operational safeguards with which our leaders and their cronies keep the public from knowing what they are up to in reality.
I never said I expected it to be easy or that such an investigation would or will ever occur, but one is most certainly needed to answer the many many questions that have so far been stonewalled or brushed over entirely.
And all the men and women merely players.
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages."
Shakepeare's words being clearly resonant of present times. We're all merely players, performing scripts that were written already by external powers over which we may never have any control. History can be written before it even occurs.
To be honest it scares the living daylights out of me that in a world where democracy supposedly reigns in developed societies such as ours and America, that such lies and deceit control the world. Unless the majority rose up against it, it would simply be doused by the government and the media using an orchestrated propaganda campaign.
I've been brought up to believe that whenever the American government is involved; be weary, very weary. It goes further than that doesn't it though?
And what is all this deceit and destruction for? More power.
I bookmarked that site Clandestine, I'm going to read through it this afternoon, should make for some interesting reading.
Weary or wary? Although being wary all the time does make one weary.
I've bookmarked it too. You gonna make me conspiracy theorist out of me soon, Clandestine! Seriously, an interesting site ... but why don't newspaper/TV media pick up on this ... ? I can understand most being in the back pockets of some media scum - but all of them?
Thats not to say that when the public perception changes and calls for transparency overtake those voices preaching conformity to and "trust" in the status quo, the corporate media wont rediscover its responsibility, but they rarely take the lead in waking the public up. It's not in their economic interests to buck the system without significant public momentum to do so.
I didn't realise this was the impeccable spelling board...suppose it's always been a board for condescension though.
I suspect the internet is going to become even more closely monitored in the future though, of course though with such expanse space it's easy for sites to exist no matter what material they contain.
it was a bit hard to swallow as well that at the airports concerned were the terrorists cars in the carpark ...complete with left behind evidence. the fact that bush senior and bin laden senior are and have been very ...VERY, close freinds and biz associates for years and years ... i can just see it ... 'sorry george but you know what kids are like today ...i have no control over the boy' ...
You dont like Bush ? Dont vote for him next time. Theres accountability for you.