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i need roads ...more roads ...roads with more lanes.
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we build more schols if the population rises... we build more hospitals ...we NEED to build more roads and widen existing ones to carry on moving and prospering.
it's not popular but do you have an alternative?
it's not popular but do you have an alternative?
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Flying cars
flying buses and when it was your stop you would jump off the bus with your parachute. lol
me thinks it would be a fun idea
but where would the airplanes fly if the cars motorbikes and buses fly.
I like those cars in minority report or perhaps we should all be given a pair winged boots like Achilles had
I dont have a car. I travel from Bradford to Newcastle very often. Its cheap, its quick (quicker than cars), its comfortable, I always get a seat (and I travel at rush-hour often) and I can have a drink on the way home.
We dont need more roads, we need less vehicles on them. Trucks should be replaced by traisn wherever possible, and people should try going places on the train or on the bus. And unless you live in the arse-end of nowhere you have no excuse not to use trains, tubes or buses- Londoners, in particular, shouldnt ever have to move their cars from the driveway, and London is the most grid-locked city in the country.
You could build a high-speed train line for less than the equivalent distance of motorway.
Who wants a ride in my flying car?
up your arse:p
:mad: GRR now its getting personal.
You aint getting in my flying car if i ever get one. :P
london and other big cities realy can't have new roads as there is no place to put them and i agree theres no excuse for not walking or cycling more. but getting from city to city should be made easier.
i live in a rural area and even if the local bus stopped in my drive every half hour i would'nt get on it as it aint going to take me to all the places i need to go today.
i don't understand the big outcry against building more roads and widening existing motorways that were built for 1960's 70's traffic volumes ...doesn't make sense.
Less people, ample space.
I'm only kidding MR; you know I feel most immigrants are doing jobs no one wants and from what I've seen work like hell.:cool:
I agree, if the government actually had the guts to do something about public transport it would improve hugely - take London for example, the Mayor has pitifully few powers but he was elected on a programme of improving public transport and since 2000 it has improved. There are more electronic countdowns at the bus stops saying when the next bus is due, there are lots more buses especially at night and the buses are newer as well. When I started getting the bus to school in 1996 they were using buses that were over 20 years old and were smelly and uncomfortable now they have new buses. All the increase in bus use has come from London because the Mayor actually had the guts to out and sort it out.
The reason Central London was so congested, with the congestion charge traffic has fallen by about a fifth, was because you had 21st Century levels of cars trying to get around on roads that have been around since Medieval times and even Roman times in some cases. Most streets in Central London are still only two lanes, the most you'll see is somewhere like Oxford Street with four laned streets compare that to the Champs Elysees which has something like eight lanes. In the suburbs congestion isn't that bad except when you have all these housewives doing the school run which is what really slows it down in London because they can't be bothered to walk their kids to school. Plus look at how many cars have only one or two people in them, that is really annoying. The only reason that you need a car in London is because of the huge inconvience of having to carry your shopping for a family of four back from the supermarket - if the supermarkets let you do your shopping and then had vans to deliver your food home (like online food shopping does) then you wouldn't need a car in London at all. In fact only 10% of commuters take the car into work the rest get public transport.
The trouble with government transport policy is that when they build a new motorway or whatever they only design it for current traffic use. Take the M25, when it was built it was only designed to deal with 1987 traffic levels and so by 1990 it ended up gridlocked. The transport system in this country lacks innovation, while other countries are trying out maglev trains that can do something like 300 mph we're messing about with tilting trains that can only do half that. If the government had the guts they'd renationalise the rail industry to recreate British Rail, rip out the existing railway and replace it with a new maglev infrastructure. Also this would help reduce the north south divide, most Londoners are used to commuting an hour or so to work so Londoners would be able to move out of London to the North to buy cheaper houses and then would commute to London on the InterCity lines then their larger London income would be spent in the North increasing growth of industry and creating more jobs there.
Sharing rides and using public transportation would be more in keeping with supporting Kyoto right?
a million fast moving vehicles will not produce the same ammount.
cars are getting cleaner but theres a long way to go. when we come up with an alternative fine but ...until then we have to live with the car ...so lets make the fucking thing work as efficiently for us as possible ...by building and improving the roads.
But in many areas of America, there are no real towns. There's housing developments and Malls and workplaces-campuses out in the country...all requiring cars.
I'll be driving in a year and a month.
As for the crap about getting everywhere safely and quickly, Mallard was running at 125mph before cars could be afforded by anyone but the very rich. Our ancestors got about quickly on the tram, on the bus, on the train. We cant, not because its not possible to, but because were too damned lazy to.
And laziness cannot be pandered to anymore. We do not have the room for the roads, and the environment cannot cope with the pollution. Electric cars cause just as much pollution, just a step further back in the process.
In fact, Id actually close two lanes of the M1 to vehicles with only one person in them. Thered be plenty of room for those who are sensible then.
The problem with congestion is that it only happens at peak times and in a few places. For instance most congested section of road in the world the M6 north of Birmingham is only a problem due to so many people all trying to squeeze through the same section at the same time. The actual tail back is little more than the product of a bottle neck.
Two things need to happen, we need to see working hours become more flexible to de-congest the 9am and 5pm rushes. And the government needs to lean on BT to start making it easier to work at home. At least 50% of the IT industry could work effectively with no need to go into a central office everyday.
I work from home with no probs.
Why don't people just walk, get the bus or the train?! Hell....let's just raise tax loads to pay for the alternatives - free walking shoes for all!
Roadworks annoy everyone. And we do not need more damn roads. :no:
So why more roads?
Out of interest, I drove down the M1 recently late at evening and passed about 10 cars between Wakefield and Nottingham. Congestion happens at peak times, and people should have to pay for contributing to the congestion. Only in time, but why should I pay for widened roads so a load of commuters can go to work? I dont need a ten-lane motorway, I travel off-peak.
And Ill bet youre complaining about the toll road north of Birmingham as well.
I can't believe people still suggest public transport, I can only assume these people have either never used public transport themselves or never had a normal 9-5 job.
I feel like we need to discourage the overuse of cars because in our lifetimes we will run out of fuel to put in them, and the sooner we get another infrastructure in place as an alternative, the better. Its all a matter of what we are used to and comfortable with, and you can't just expect to people to give something that is easy and convenient up, you need to provide incentives, a little like the example above. OK, its a bit token, but its better than nothing.......
Right, there's my rant, back to work......
Fair play that's a good example of public transport working. However on Tuesday I had to go from the Staffs Moorlands to Birmingham for a meeting, I then had to brnig back an assortment of historical posters and it was raining. I just don't think public transport would have been an option.