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And the Uk forces defended the catholics, did they? well maybe they weren't as bad as the black and tans...but still it was pretty obivous they were in favour of the protestant side of the community, i've seen it happening.
Because in 1984 she agreed to hand Hong Kong back in 1997 to what is it's main country - China. So similarly we should hand Northern Ireland back to its main country - Ireland.
Opinion polls say that 60% of Britons back a united Ireland and of the remaining 40% a large proportion were of no opinion either way. Also a large majority of people in the Irish Republic want Northern Ireland to return to them, indeed it was in their constitution until not so long ago (removed as part of the Good Friday agreement) and is still the view of most Irish people.
The centuries of association have been miserable for all concerned marked by almost continual violence by the British repressing the Irish on the one side and Irish terrorism on the other. Ireland doesn't have the same culture, it has it's own distinct Celtic culture and its own language. You couldn't unite them overnight but it could be phased in over a decade or so like with Hong Kong.
The lease had existed since the 19th century.
Point is we handed back a British dependency to its natural country. So just as Hong Kong went back to China so Northern Ireland should be reunited with the Irish Republic.
northern IRELAND
if the british believed that they had any true claim to a 6 county state over an ocean, then the UK's offical title wouldnt be "The United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" itd still be called britain.
The scottish protestants that were sent to northern ireland in the nineteenth century are the root of the more modern problems, if it wasnt for that, i think Ireland would be a happier, less oppressed place
People in the Republic now have a better standard of living than those in Ulster.
you know this through which means...
Also a faster growing economy (over the past decade) which would lead to an increased standard of living.
The fact that there is no free health care in the Republic does not necessarily denote a 'worse' standard of living. There is no free health care in the US but on average has a higher standard of living than the UK.
the US does not have higher standard of living on average because of the amount of poverty in the poorer regions, but i think it was shown somewhere that an average white middle class family etc would have better standards of living in the US
anyway, Northern IRELAND should be given back to Ireland in my opinion
Or if a majority can't afford a doctor.
Some Arab Kingdoms feature or used to feature at the very top of the GDP list. Go and see the standard of living of the population in those places.
haha no we leased it from china in 1847 to stop the opium wars,(yes a war over heroin!) it was a compromise deal to have the island for 150 years! for the next 50 years though the island has semi independence from the mainland
The Black and Tans were Army irregulars, I.E. British Army part timers, sent in to defuse the GPO take over in 1916 (whilst the UVF was aquitting it'self on the field of battle)
2/3rds of the Northern Irish people wish to remain British. What we should say screw them, screw the people on "isla malvinas" and on Gibralter lets tell them that they can't be British any more because we handed Honkers over.
Turlough are you actually living in Ulster? Surely you can see that the IRA are no longer a republican organisation but drug runners like the UVF/UDA
Actually no. Ulster has always been seperate from the other three counties. Even the people are different. Ulster is one of the places inhabited by Vikings, the only other major place in Ireland is Dublin (Blackpool as my family like to call it)
When? It should be noted that those Scottish tended to be from areas that had been conquered and inhabited by the Irish years before hand. That's right Albany belonged to ikkle Erin.
Well if the Irish people want it!!!![/sarcasm] 60% of Britons many of whom (as shown by this thread) know little or nothing of Ireland and have no business with it. Sure it would be nice just to go screw it it costs too much in lives and taxes to keep Northern Ireland lets give it back. That's fine for someone who doesn't come from there. Of the people there just under 2/3rds want to stay British (many of the 1/3 who don't have been tactically moved into Ulster to gain Sínn Fein vital seats.)
You tend to hear only one side as well. Loyalists are not good with their PR.
Loyalists aren't good with their spelling, never mind PR! Sorry had to be said...
Get your terms right some of Ulster is actually in the Irish Republic because it contained a majority Catholic population in 1922 and a majority Catholic population would have been reached a lot sooner, so maybe you should use the correct term of Northern Ireland.
The Irish people want it. The British people don't. Simple solution - give it back. Voila no more terrorism or lives pointlessly lost. Those who want to stay British can move to the mainland like those who wanted to stay British when Hong Kong was handed to the Chinese did. Why not mention the Scottish Protestants who have for generations been tactically moved to Northern Ireland to keep a Protestant majority.
You are right. Co.Donegal, Cabhan and Monaghan are indeed part of ROI however we ulstermen still call Northern Ireland, Ulster. There's facts and there's life.
Yes a mass exodus of all those people? And why? Why should they give in to terrorist demands and leave there homes and lives behind? Ulstermen (or 6/9 counties at least) are British and the majority of those people want to stay British and stay there in their own homes. I don't know what world you live in it's obviously not this one! Honk Kong and Northern Ireland are 2 completely different nuts. Just because Honkers cracked doesn't set a precident for this one.
Sorry Tim, Educated under a Labour government, need I say more?
Despite your wish to paint a majority of the British people, a large majority of the Irish people not to mention about half the Northern Irish people terrorists that's just not the reality of the situation. I live in this world - the world where approximately half the Northern Irish community are Nationalists, where a majority of the British people want rid of Northern Ireland and where something like 80% of the Irish people want the rest of their country back. You want to stay British - come and live in Britain then. Fact is it's not a matter if Northern Ireland rejoins the Republic it's when.
Yeah you could explain why despite admitting your bad spelling you still seem to lack the ability to find a dictionary or is that Jim Callaghan's fault too? :rolleyes:
I don't really give a damn for a message board like this. But let me put some phonetic Irish down and lets have you spell that eh?
Pogue mah hown!
(ans: Póg ma Thoíne)
Pogue mah hone
Damn English!
pog mo thoin
Quite frankly I have no desire to kiss you on any part of your body, sorry to disappoint you.
Do fúl ort!
Imeacht gan teacht ort, Kevlar.
Go raith maith agat is oíche maith! RS!